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PEZ
Posted 2008-12-08 2:24 AM (#7977)
Subject: Silk & Steel



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Location: Nashville TN.
How do you tell when they worn out??
Or
How long should they last?

I had them on since Aug and no sign or wear.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-12-08 5:24 AM (#7978 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel


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They seem to last forever - but just to brighten it up a little you should be thinking of changing them now. They deteriorate so slowly that you think they haven't changed at all, but they have. A new set now should sound a lot livelier than you might expect.
What brand are they?
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marenostrum
Posted 2008-12-08 6:18 AM (#7979 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: Tuscany, Italy
I like silk&steel. Currently using Martin M130 (0115/047) on Adamas II. Recently got

- Silk&steel LaBella 710L, - 011/051
- PhoBro & Silk 610LM J.Pearse, - 012/053
- Silk&steel Ernie Ball extra soft bronze, - 010/050

still missing Adamas 4848 silk&steel, 011/051.
I found that on textured Adamas and also on some wooden box they sound and play nicely with a warm tone, delivering also more brightness then expected and an overall round sound.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-12-08 6:53 AM (#7980 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: south east Michigan
I've been told these are great on a UTE.
I need to try them.
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Patch
Posted 2008-12-08 10:00 AM (#7981 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent
Originally posted by Slipkid:
I've been told these are great on a UTE.
I need to try them.
Hmmm...I hadn't thought of them for that guitar. Interesting idea.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-12-08 10:07 AM (#7982 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel


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Location: Marlton, NJ
Originally posted by Slipkid:
I've been told these are great on a UTE.
I need to try them.
I have a set here. If they're good for the UTE, they'd probably be nice on the #47, no?
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-12-08 10:10 AM (#7983 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: south east Michigan
Mountainbiker Fred is the one who highly recommended them to me.
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Beal
Posted 2008-12-08 10:50 AM (#7984 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: 6 String Ranch
They start to sound deader than when you put them on, is one way to tell when they need to be replaced. The other is that the G and D will start to get flat spots from the frets.
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PEZ
Posted 2008-12-08 4:25 PM (#7985 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: Nashville TN.
I have been using them on my 1719.
I was kinda sounding too bright with Phos. Bronze. So bright it sounded thin. S&S warmed it up and filled out the sound nicely.

I have also been using them 6751LX

I don't think they sound deader at least to me.
I can't see any flat spots.
They really lasting a long time.
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twistedlim
Posted 2008-12-22 11:21 PM (#7986 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel


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Location: Michigan
Ok I am a novice string person. I started playing in the early 80s in college. Taught by my roomate who had the coolest guitar I had ever seen (sunburst O 12 string). When I got my first guitar the guy at the store told me Martin Marquis are the only way to go. I have used them since. After 10 years off I picked up my legend and I am back at it a couple of hours a day and having a ball. I recently picked up a set of Martin Silk/steel strings. At first they sounded muddy and took them off and put on the old phospher bronze. I was used to the bright sound and without a capo they sounded perfect. What I have noticed since I got the Ovation is that since it is so much larger/longer than my old Rokkomman OOO martin copy, that the strings are much tighter. I have adjusted to it pretty much but noticed that the notes played capo at the third fret and up have very little sustain with the phospher bronze. The silk/ steel seem to be a totally different story. Capo to the 3rd fret and the sustain is perfect for what I play. Is this normal or my imagination. I will be first to admit I am no great player and but I do notice that if I capo the phospher bronze I lose something while the silk/steel can sustain the note much longer. Am I mad? Stupid or just somewhere in between? :) Anyway I am giving the silk/steel another try. PS, I do not use a pick, gave it up after I lost my last one 20 years ago. :)
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Auriemma
Posted 2008-12-23 8:40 AM (#7987 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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I have been considering them for my Elite-T. Any idea what the difference in sound would be from D'Addiaro EXP Phos/Bronze 12's?
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twistedlim
Posted 2008-12-23 11:27 AM (#7988 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel


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Location: Michigan
I have no idea with that model Joe. I can tell you it is very different sound with a deep bowl legend. The bass strings seem deeper and of course not nearly as bright. I would try a set and give yourself a week or two to get used to the different sound. You may like it or not. I would say it is personal preference. I do like the bright sound of the phospher bronze (probably because that is what I was used to) but I am warming up to the silk/steel.
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Auriemma
Posted 2008-12-23 4:10 PM (#7989 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: NW of Philadelphia
I liked the sound of year old dead factory 12's. Its why I bought it. The new strings sound too bright to me. I'm looking for something to mellow it back.

But then, I want to replace my OP-Pro with a OP-24+ (like in my CC257) in my 1868T. Just call me stupid.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-23 4:47 PM (#7990 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
Originally posted by auriemma:
But then, I want to replace my OP-Pro with a OP-24+ (like in my CC257) in my 1868T. Just call me stupid.
Okay 'Stupid'... But I have always liked the OP-24+, it don't have a tuna but it is Nice.

Unfortunately, none of my guitars have the OP-24+ nowadays :(
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TexasDoc
Posted 2008-12-23 7:24 PM (#7991 - in reply to #7977)
Subject: Re: Silk & Steel


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Posts: 1116

Location: Keller, TX
Stupid.

I have them (Savarez) on my custom UTE. Amazing sound. Try em.
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