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Slipkid
Posted 2005-03-06 4:21 PM (#160840)
Subject: I need a metronome or a drummer



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I'm playing around with my digital recorder again. I put down a basic vocal/guitar track with the idea to thicken it up with a seperate guitar track and another vocal track. I never realized just how inconsistant my strumming is! My open mic partner says I tend to "jazz" up songs. He's not here to hold my leash today.
The song is "Something". It has to be sloooow and relaxed. I have to be very aware of the warp speed death spiral. I've had luck with other songs but I haven't done one this slow yet.
The Korg recorder has a built in rhythm feature but I haven't figured out how to get it off calypso. Like I said before...there is a lot of features packed into that little box. It's going to take lots of practice.
If anyone wants to hear one of my tracks (mistakes and all) I'll e-mail an MP3. Warning...these are the efforts of a newbie to recording himself.
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noah
Posted 2005-03-06 4:26 PM (#160841 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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if you don't have time, go to www.metronomeonline.com

email me your mp3
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-06 4:51 PM (#160842 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer


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Be thankful you don't have a drummer that needs a metronome.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-07 7:35 AM (#160843 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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Brad,
Look up "Click Trax" on the web. It is a Metro-Gnome type devive that can be audible to the player but won't show up in a recording.

We are trying to incorporate it in our Praise Band set up.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-03-07 8:04 AM (#160844 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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Thanks for both suggestions.
Timing is everything.
That phrase has taken on a whole new meaning. Finding the right tempo then holding it through out the song is a challenge. If the song is going well you start to get excited about it and the next thing you know you are in the death spiral.
Because I record with a mic, I need a visual type timekeeper.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-03-07 8:45 AM (#160845 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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Hi,

My rhythm tends to be like a snowball rolling down hill. Faster and larger.

I've seen metronomes in several music stores that have a silent mode, just a blinking dot on the display. Sorry I can't remember any brands or models. Not much help am I? At least you know your not the only one with this problem.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-03-07 9:09 AM (#160846 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer


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Brad, you could do what Sir Paul does and play Something on a uke.

We've had days in church where I've turned to the band leader and said that "our rhythm filled the church... it was all over the place".
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-03-07 9:26 AM (#160847 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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I am playing "Something" on my uke also. But it is not yet fit for public consumption and is not allowed out of my living room.
Besides, BrianT has the lead solo and the harmonys figured out.
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BrianT
Posted 2005-03-07 3:38 PM (#160848 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer


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The trick to staying in-time is to stick your tonque out slightly and upward at the corner of your mouth; kind of like when you are trying to tie a knot in fishing line. This activates the timing-concentration cortex node of your brain.

Try it
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2005-03-08 3:31 AM (#160849 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer


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Remember that there is a difference between playing "in time" and "on time." If you try to play with every single accent exactly on the metronome, you are going to sound like a computer, and drive yourself nuts. You should let the click go for a few bars before you start... think of it as a drummer... listen to it... think how your song is going to sound with it, listen for the groove... then play. I sometimes set up a tic-toc toc toc or boom-tap tap tap type of click so it sounds just a little less mechanical.

Playing to a metronome is the hardest part for new studio musicians to get past. They uncontrollably try to keep exactly with it. Until they learn to just "keep time" with it, it's very frustrating for them.... and me too I guess. Drummers are the worst. They are so used to having everyone follow them, that they don't realize they are not supposed to be "on beat" but in most cases just ahead or behind to either drive or lay back a tune.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-03-08 9:15 AM (#160850 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer



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Miles is absolutley correct.

I finally solved my problem with clicks by buying a cheap drum machine. Gave me the steady beat with a sound I was more comfortable with.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-08 5:40 PM (#160851 - in reply to #160840)
Subject: Re: I need a metronome or a drummer


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Have you considered tapping your foot? Combined with BrianT's suggestion this should solve all your problems.
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