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Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2005-07-07 5:54 PM (#145086 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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The problem is, is that we already have a bunch of them, but the only thing happening is our young men and women are being tried and convicted of not treating these bastards nice enough. Yea, the exact same one's that have been cutting the heads off inocent people...
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alpep
Posted 2005-07-07 6:20 PM (#145087 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: NJ
I think it will take more than an act of terroism to get PT. He is rather resilient
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-07 7:07 PM (#145088 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: SoCal
Well, if I must, I must....
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Abendicum
Posted 2005-07-07 7:26 PM (#145089 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Posts: 271

Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Our prayers do indeed go out, to ALL the victims of the Terrorists...

Glad to hear, the lead punter, slide guitarsman, from the Wankers OFC Band, is still fook'in, kick'in...

I was 2 feet to the right of that poor Applause when he connected... I will never forget that moment... it is burned into my soul...

(Slipkid I liked your pronouncication of Master Temps favorite word... I think, that's how you spelled it)

Ab
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-07 8:19 PM (#145090 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066
Glad to hear evryone is ok.
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GrilledCheese
Posted 2005-07-08 7:13 AM (#145091 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Evansville,IN
Originally posted by Standingovation:
I would have no problem at all killing a terrorist. When they finally get these bastards and stick them in the chair I personally volunteer to throw the switch. With pleasure. Dave
I totally agree with you and WeaserP. I would not have any qualms about killing these terrorist, whatsoever, but it's not up to me.


You're right it does tend to make me more, and more angry that they don't do something with them quicker. Why feed and house them for years. I feel deep down that if you are found as a terrorist, it should be an automatic death sentence. :mad:
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Pete Johnson
Posted 2005-07-08 7:39 PM (#145092 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Birmingham. U.K.
i totally agree with you Grilledcheese the only problem here is that here in the UK we have no death penalty and therefore end up having to pay for 25 years (if your very lucky) of upkeep for the bastards.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-07-08 7:45 PM (#145093 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Better a car than an Ovation. :cool:

Our prayers are with those in England and all the innocent victims of these cowards. :mad:
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Joe Camel
Posted 2005-07-08 9:16 PM (#145094 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Ohio
And now that we're talking about killing terrorists, how about the bastards who have been molesting and killing our kids right here at home. How about that guy in Idaho who just got caught alive. How could that happen. He is a career child molester and murderer. How did he get caught alive?

Again, glad to hear our friends across the pond are safe.

See how you all get me dander up! LOL
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cruster
Posted 2005-07-08 9:43 PM (#145095 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Midland, MI
Revenge, at first though sweet,
Bitter ere long back on itself recoils. - John Milton
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amstphd
Posted 2005-07-08 10:26 PM (#145096 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Germantown, MD
Cruster and John Milton got it right. Throughout history, force has done nothing more than create an excuse for more force.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-08 11:00 PM (#145097 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Revenge is often an irrational response.

Irrational response is rarely successful.

Force, however, is not necessarily revenge. The statement that the use of force begets more force may be true in some cases but throughout history, security has been effected by awareness, preparedness, security, and (when necessary) men-at-arms.

Aggressors are rarely rational, debate or concession are rarely effective.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-07-09 8:48 AM (#145098 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Location: Upper Left USA
This isn't Home. It will never be right.

But you still need to try.
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John B
Posted 2005-07-09 9:04 AM (#145099 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Let me add my support and condolences to our brothers and sisters in London. I'm glad to hear that everyone on the OFC family is OK. Watching the images on TV brought back some awful memories of 9/11/01. I agree with those who want to see the terrorists killed, but unfortunately, they believe that it's an honor to be a martyr. It only strengthens their resolve. This mess in Iraq is proof of that.
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-09 9:46 AM (#145100 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Well said, Tony. I'm in complete agreement with security and discussion at all times, force when necessary. And John, you're also correct which is why this is a more difficult fight than we typically find ourselves in. I think that resolve and global unity against terrorism will prove to be the only source of resolution.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-09 10:14 AM (#145101 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: SoCal
John, I'd be happy to "honor" as many of the terrorists as possible.
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Beal
Posted 2005-07-09 11:58 AM (#145102 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Location: 6 String Ranch
as I once heard a great person say, "Kill the Motherfuckers" Sort it out later.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-07-09 8:23 PM (#145103 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London



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Location: East Tennessee
As posted by MWoody;

This isn't Home. It will never be right.

But you still need to try.
MWoody is right.
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Callunna
Posted 2005-07-11 4:25 PM (#145104 - in reply to #145061)
Subject: Re: London


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Location: Barnoldswick, England
Thanks, you guys, for sending your messages to us here in the UK.

Your sentiments of what should be done to the bombers are echoed here by many people.

But I can't help believing that terrorism will never be stopped by simply bringing those responsible to justice, because there will always be someone else to take their place and the violence will never end.

What we need to do is solve the problems at the root of all this, otherwise innocent people of all nations will go on getting killed.

It's too huge an issue to go into here and I have no simple one-line answer to it (unlike cwk2's quotation!). Except maybe that hate never solved anything.

We've had terrorism and bombs here in the UK since the early 70s, from the IRA. While many, many US citizens sent their condolences, there were others in the US who funded this and similar organisations - and the violence continued. When is it OK for innocent people to die? It all depends on your personal viewpoint and religion, perhaps.
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