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BluesSailor
Posted 2005-08-07 9:40 AM (#141304)
Subject: Legend Bracing


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What type of bracing would I find an a '79 1117 Legend?

Thanks

Blues
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-08-07 10:21 AM (#141305 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing



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I think it's VT-8
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-08-07 10:29 AM (#141306 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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Probably VT bracing. But that was the time when the A bracing was being phased in. Does the guitar have a truss rod cover or not?
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BluesSailor
Posted 2005-08-07 10:40 AM (#141307 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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Yep, it has the TRC.

Blues
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-08-07 10:42 AM (#141308 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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Probably does have the VT bracing.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-08-07 11:15 AM (#141309 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing



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Take a mirror and give it a look. Dave
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BluesSailor
Posted 2005-08-07 11:26 AM (#141310 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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I don't have it handy to look at. The last time this topic went by, I seem to remember that the consenses was that the A bracing wasn't widly used until the early 80's. I couldn't remember if that was across the board or if in a particular model. I think the discussion was about Baladeers but I couldn't find that specific thread.

The one I'm considering at is for sale by flattopman2000 in sell/trade. Price is right.

Blues
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Erniewan
Posted 2005-08-07 12:08 PM (#141311 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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my 1980 1117-4 has a-bracing and kaman bar....no TRC..

Ernie
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-08-07 1:40 PM (#141312 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing



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According some catalogs It's a VT-11.
In the late 70's/early 80's (probably in 1980) the VT-11 was replaced with the A bracing.
Both TRC and K-Bar were made.
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flattopman2000
Posted 2005-08-07 11:11 PM (#141313 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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From what I understand around 79-80 they changed and this was made according to the serial number in late 79 so?...I know its a nice sounding flat top box....and I was told a bracing but who knows ?..
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flattopman2000
Posted 2005-08-07 11:21 PM (#141314 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing


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This question was asked recently
" have two Ovations that by the serial numbers are both 79's. My 1117 is 193xxx and my 1112 is 162xxx. I believe the 1117 is a Legend and the 1112 is a Balladeer. There is a lot of difference in their construction. I realize they are different models but I guess I would have expected them to be more similar. The 1117 has the truss rod adjustment cover at the headstock, while the 1112 is inside the body. The necks are very different, the 1112 is thicker(still great).The bowls are not only different colors but seem to be, well different. Both are fairly new to me but are becomming my main squeezes. Any light you experenenced guys can shed is appreciated."

and in reply Standing ovation said.."
1117 Legend is A-braced and has AAA spruce top. Truss rod bound neck with diamond shaped inlays, gold hardware. 1112 Balladeer is X-braced and has A grade top. Has K-bar unbound neck and chrome hardware. The bowls are similar but have different neck attachment. Bowls might be different color (brown vs. black). The bowls might also appear to have a slightly different pattern to the texturing. Based on the difference in the bracing and the neck, I would expect they sound quite different."

Which is also what I was told.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-08-08 4:01 AM (#141315 - in reply to #141304)
Subject: Re: Legend Bracing



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I can't tell if your calling me brillent for my insight, or of you're saying I'm full of crap. Oh well, either way you've got a pretty nice guitar on your hands and that's what counts. Dave
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