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Location: NJ | Jeanette likes that picture, too.
That was last NewYear's at cwk2's.
. . . don't know if that "rosy glow" is from the sun setting in the window behind me . . .
. . . or some REALLY good red wine . . |
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Location: closely held secret | Yes, you'll want a mixer - but get the Behringer UB1204-PRO. It has an alt3/4 output that's priceless for monitoring. About $120, you'll find it invaluable. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Lots of great information to be had here.
I originally thought that I could just load up the $100 SONAR software and be able to digitally record. Now I know that that won't work. I need a new sound card ($100) and a mixer (Cliff says $50, but Waskel says go for the better $120 unit). Plus, the Cubase software starts at $300. That makes a total of $520.
I'm not a pro, more like a hacker. So let's go back to the beginning. If I put in the M-Audio sound card and go with the SONAR software will I be able to do some simple recording on my computer? I'm just looking to record some stuff with my son who's 16. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Yes, you can always add a mixer later if the desire hits you.
The setup you mentioned will take care of your basic needs. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Thanks once again to all! I don't expect to have everything up and running in time to submit a substitute for one of Dave's uke songs on the OFC CD, but who knows. :) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mitchrx:
I don't expect to have everything up and running in time to submit a substitute for one of Dave's uke songs on the OFC CD, but who knows. I'm sure about 3800 members would be glad to help out to ensure you make the deadline! Dave |
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Location: North Texas | If you have any kind of music software, cakewalk, cubase, PT, or even a free downloadable music program, you can start recording today. If your soundcard has a line in, just plug into it. Many stock onboard soundcards will do the job, at least to get you started. If you need bells and whistles and ultra multi track doo-dads you'll need to open your wallet, however, I suspect you already have enough equipment to start recording now. Bottom line is, if you have a computer with a sound card, and a cable to connect your instrument to it, you can make a decent recording immediately. Don't let the issue of not having exactly the "right" equipment hold you back. Even the crummiest PC audio equipment of today is far better than what we had a few years ago. Any piece of equipment with a line out; old tape recorder, mixer, or whatever can be plugged in to your computers' line in. Use the stuff you already have, and your imagination, first. Upgrade as needed. Most important thing, have a good time making music. Cheers, Buck |
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Location: closely held secret | Bucky's right, don't let us stampede you into a bunch of hardware. Install your software, rig up a patch cable to get into your existing soundcard, and go for it, have fun. As you get more experienced, you'll probably find yourself replacing/augmenting your setup with higher quality hardware.
One thing to note - the 24/96 card has RCA inputs, so you'll at least need to build some RCA to female 1/4" patch cable, or build a RCA to male 1/4" guitar cable. Not a big deal, but thought you should know. |
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Location: Churchville, NY USA | I used Cakewalk Homestudio 2004 and Sonar 2...both work great for home-recording....
as far as the Soundblaster soundcard...I use the Audigy2...works fine...there is a fair amount of snobbery regarding recording gear...
It's easy with the Soundblaster to use Midi and you can get recordings thats sound pretty darn good...
My music using Cakewalk and Soundblaster Audigy
the recordings first listed (at the top are the newest)...
try out what you got before you replace something...the money you spent for a new recording card would buy a pretty nice microphone...or whatever...
Home recording is tons of fun. BTW...the acoustic in my latest tunes is my Ovation CC026. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Rasmuth:
as far as the Soundblaster soundcard...I use the Audigy2...works fine...there is a fair amount of snobbery regarding recording gear...
try out what you got before you replace something...the money you spent for a new recording card would buy a pretty nice microphone...or whatever...
It's not snobbery, but thanks. Simple facts, the Creative products up to this point are more focused on playback, not recording. Perhaps that changed in the Audigy2, I don't know, I walked away from Creative products the first time I recorded into an audiophile quality soundcard.
And it doesn't do you any good to put premium gas in a Yugo. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The Audigy2 works ok with a limited number of tracks but if you start getting too many, the latency will creep up and bite you in the ass.
But then, maybe some folks are better at correcting latency issues than I am. I get anal if it is greater than 10ms. |
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Location: closely held secret | It's not just the latency. They have had a lot of problems with their drivers, as well. My biggest complaint about them is the noise level on the inputs. If you want to use it to watch a DVD in surround, they're great. I just don't hear anything approaching studio quality on the input side. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I have just done a bit of testing of my new M-Audio 2496 and there is no comparison between it and the Audigy. Particularly notable is the difference in the recording level before clipping...probably 30% more with the 2496.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Snobs :rolleyes: |
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Location: Churchville, NY USA | I want to apologize for my "snobbery" remark from my earlier post...It wasn't directed at anyone at this forum...I've been to many other forums where the Soundblaster gets "blasted" so to speak...and I'm not sure why...and there are others who feel the same way I do...
but my point was...try your system as is and see how it works...that money may be better utilized elsewhere...
as far as latency...I haven't had issues with track latency...I've had as many as 90 tracks in a song and still have the Audigy work fine....and my system is modest...Athlon 2400+ (2ghz processor)
I've heard recordings with "superior" equipment sound much worse than music I've heard recorded By others using Soundblasters...or even on board soundcards.
again...I apologize for my off the cuff remark earlier. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I would like to apologize for the entire "80's" and most of the "90's"! I should have bought more guitars. |
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