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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-29 11:06 AM (#4795)
Subject: what's astir downunder?


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ya reckon the OFC is on the list?
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-29 11:10 AM (#4796 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?



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Good for them!
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Steve
Posted 2008-12-29 12:27 PM (#4797 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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It seems their list is also a secret, Randy...

So, they're going to spend $45 million to basically slow down all the browser speeds by 86%...

Because their filters can't tell the difference between a guitar 'string', a guitar 'top', a guitar 'waist', a guitar 'neck', a guitar 'nut' with how those simple terms might be used in an otherwise illegal activity... Duh... :rolleyes:

Get ready, universal internet censorship is inevitable..
Good-bye free speech..
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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-29 12:30 PM (#4798 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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let's not forget that the word, "porn" often shows up in these pages.

well, our aussie friends, it's been nice havin' ya'. ;)
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Steve
Posted 2008-12-29 12:46 PM (#4799 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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The good news is that the plan still has to be approved by Parliament. I wonder how many musicians and authors they have?
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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-29 12:52 PM (#4800 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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Originally posted by stephent28:
Good for them!
not even, stephen. or for anyone else in the long run.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-29 1:19 PM (#4801 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?



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reading the whole article, I agree with the intent.
Child porn is illegal and access to it should be curtailed. There are those who will look for the extreme examples to bitch and complain but that is their nature. Sure there are some grey areas but that is true everywhere.

Bring me back the innocence of the 50s, 60s, 70s when you could actually discipline a child and parents accepted responsibility beyond giving birth.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-29 1:26 PM (#4802 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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if the intent is true, i agree also.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-12-29 1:32 PM (#4803 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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Originally posted by Steve:
So, they're going to spend $45 million to basically slow down all the browser speeds by 86%...
That's pretty much it. While the theory and intent of the plan has merit, the reality is that the result will be degraded service for everyone, and anyone who actually wants to get to the "restricted" sites, will do so via technology that either already exists or will exist to circumvent the new "firewall."

There are other countries that have attempted this, and corporations attempt these restrictions all the time. I use the word "attempt" because the reality is that "deterrence" is probably a better word than "restriction."

A more prudent and cost effective in the long run program would be to use the current traffic monitoring available, and either block the sites based on that, or go after those accessing certain sites. I don't condone this either, but if it's a choice of degrading everyone's service, or just going after people who bring restricted material into the country, I would opt for the latter.

Where's Bernadette Taylor when you need her. Good luck.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-12-29 1:35 PM (#4804 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?
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Originally posted by lanaki:
the list?
... aka 'further down the slippery slope' !


stephan28, sorry to say, won't happen. :(
< muttering while heading into the sunset...>
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Steve
Posted 2008-12-29 1:40 PM (#4805 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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Great post Miles..

I have to wonder if the people who come up wih these ideas of censorship are intelligent enough to listen to reason, or just a bunch of federal flunkies who only want the tax money..
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an4340
Posted 2008-12-29 1:43 PM (#4806 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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At work, they do this. It stops a simpleton like me, but somehow, people who want to look at banned websites figure out a way. And then they get caught and then fired. It's not going to make the australians better people, it's sort of retarding.
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ozwatto
Posted 2008-12-29 3:40 PM (#4807 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?


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Public uproar? ..protests in stste capitals?

This is the first I've heard of this. Maybe I should watch the news sometime :confused:
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schroeder
Posted 2008-12-29 3:47 PM (#4808 - in reply to #4795)
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True story (or maybe apochryphal - who knows?) -

When filtering software was first developed it looked for words and combinations of words. The first way round this was to put a random letter on the front of every word and the filtering software was pscrewed because the word wasn't in it's list of banned words. So the software guys programmed their filters to look inside words and delete any word containing a banned word. The British town of Scunthorpe disappeared from the internet for weeks. The town council and several hundred businesses were not amused.
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muzza
Posted 2008-12-29 4:03 PM (#4809 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?



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Originally posted by schroeder:
Scunthorpe
I didn't know 'thor' was a bad word...
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-12-29 8:00 PM (#4810 - in reply to #4795)
Subject: Re: what's astir downunder?



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Right idea, wrong solution.

Can't remember who said, "Government will always do the right thing. After it's exhausted the alternatives."

Censorship, book burning, Politically Correct repression of unpopular thought......all wrong solutions. How many more examples do we need of how to go about things wrong?

Just one more, it seems.
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