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Made in USA......NOT!

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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-11-08 4:48 PM (#131415 - in reply to #131390)
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OK Roger, I just noticed where you live. ;)
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-08 5:14 PM (#131416 - in reply to #131390)
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And he works for (ahem) . . . . . . . Ford.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-11-09 10:50 AM (#131417 - in reply to #131390)
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Cliff, how did you guess????? :D

Roger
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-09 11:01 AM (#131418 - in reply to #131390)
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". . Like Cliff says, it's a gift (curse). . ."
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MWoody
Posted 2005-11-09 11:05 AM (#131419 - in reply to #131390)
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:D
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Waskel
Posted 2005-11-09 11:17 AM (#131420 - in reply to #131390)
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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
Cliff, how did you guess????? :D

Roger
Perhaps he read this...
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adamas72
Posted 2005-11-11 6:57 PM (#131421 - in reply to #131390)
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http://www.cigarboxguitar.com/
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-11-12 7:01 AM (#131422 - in reply to #131390)
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Gee, I thought the above link would take you to the website for Estaban's American Legacy guitars....that's what they sound like......

Roger
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fossil creek
Posted 2005-11-12 7:36 AM (#131423 - in reply to #131390)
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here's my 2 cents on the "made in USA" subject. USA is the the richest country on the planet with the highest rate of poverty also. Only 3 percent of our population owns 80 percent of our wealth. It has been this way for almost 200 years. The wealthy create jobs not the poor and unemployed. Its the wealthy's responsibility to pay us well enough to be able to afford their expensive products,otherwise they're cutting their own necks. If I haven't lost you yet-heres's my point. The same american company that made my USA ovation has a Korean and tiawan division. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If ovation could make their necks out of fish scales, and not lower their price, they would. and you'd never know it untill your check cleared and your left hand smelled like Bouncing Betty. Don't get me wrong though, if I'm lucky enough to live 80+ years, I hope to be playing a USA ovation for as many of those years as possible. Jobs aren't going to sustain this great country, good moral values, compassion, and honesty is the root of what makes anything that is worth a shit. OK I'm done. OVATION ROCKS !!!
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-11-12 8:44 AM (#131424 - in reply to #131390)
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with the highest rate of poverty also
I would contest that statement if by "rate" you mean percentage.
Sorry to disagree with your first post.
Since that was your first post, and in case you have not been lurking, we touch on worldly events but try not to make them into a focal point.
Welcome to the OFC.
What guitar do you play?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-12 12:20 PM (#131425 - in reply to #131390)
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Hey FC, interesting post. You make it sound like 97% of us live in poverty..... while it's true that between my wife, my kids, and Uncle Sam, very little is left for the guitar fund, I wouldn't say that I live in poverty. And I know I'm not in that 3%.

Sounds like your a left leaning union member Democrat. Please post more as it's very entertaining. Don't take this the wrong way. Some of my best friends are LLUMD's. Well, actually none of them are. But it sounded good and P.C..

And if you should decide to post about gutars, that would be welcome as well. What guitars do you play?
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Steve
Posted 2005-11-12 12:44 PM (#131426 - in reply to #131390)
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...I remember when O's were all US made and had 5-piece necks....sigh....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-11-12 1:40 PM (#131427 - in reply to #131390)
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I heard someone refer to one of my partners as a "pot-licking Democrat". I asked him if that meant he was a pot-licking Republican, but he didn't answer me. FC sounds a lot like my daughter. I think she's a little left of the Democratic Party. We have a lot of Republicans here whose right wing broke off and floated farther right.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-12 1:49 PM (#131428 - in reply to #131390)
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I'm actually very libertarian and was registered as such for a while, but you lose your vote in the primaries when you do that. So I went with the major party most closely aligned with my philosophies.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-11-12 2:04 PM (#131429 - in reply to #131390)
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I vote for whoever is lying the lest. Sometimes it's hard because they lie very well.
Pauly
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-12 2:07 PM (#131430 - in reply to #131390)
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Pauly, that's similar to me, here in CA, voting for propositions --- they gotta make a case for me to vote yes, otherwise it's an automatic no.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-11-12 2:25 PM (#131431 - in reply to #131390)
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I don't usually vote for anybody. I just vote against somebody. Most times I wish I could vote against all of them.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-11-12 6:30 PM (#131432 - in reply to #131390)
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I'm sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight-short-sighted-narrow minded hypocrites

All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth

I've had enough of reading things
By neurotic-psychotic-pig headed politicians

All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth

No short haired-yellow bellied son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope

-- John Lennon

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-11-12 7:33 PM (#131433 - in reply to #131390)
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Basically, nowadays it always comes down to the choice between the evil of two lessers. :(
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willard
Posted 2005-11-12 7:44 PM (#131434 - in reply to #131390)
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And thd evilist lesser seems to always win.
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Buckaroo
Posted 2005-11-12 8:53 PM (#131435 - in reply to #131390)
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Successful politicians are a bunch of self-serving elitists, always have been, and will be. They are cut from the same cloth, and all belong to the same club. Rank has its' privileges.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-11-12 10:12 PM (#131436 - in reply to #131390)
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And the evilist lesser seems to always win.
No kidding Bill ... you should see what gets elected here in California. On the other hand, we do have the best representatives money can buy.
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-13 9:54 AM (#131437 - in reply to #131390)
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Count me as one of the believers that the best choose not to run for a number of reasons - there's not enough money in it, you constantly have the press in your shorts, you have to play "the political game", etc. All we get are politicians who "want to be President". If you're that bright and ambitious, you're making millions a year as CEO somewhere.

Don't get me wrong, it's the best system on the planet - it's just not perfect either. It is nice, however, to be able to voice that and discuss it.
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