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Location: Gig Harbor, Washington | Dearest 12 Owners~ I'm trying to scout out a good, high-end 12-string to invite into the Harem...
Any strong opinions between a 1990 Elite #1758 vs. a 1985 Custom Legend #1759. They seem to be very comparable, at least on the surface - mostly an aestethic question between the round soundhole and the epualets...though I'm sure there are some additional nuances that are worth considering!
Your thoughts and wise counsel are greatly appreciated. All the best~ :) |
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Location: East Tennessee | I have a 1758. Get one and you won't be disappointed. :) |
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Location: East Tennessee | Here's one on ebay right now. $599 BIN.
http://cgi.ebay.com/OVATION-ELITE-1758_W0QQitemZ7368546783QQcategor...
Good luck. :) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Short of an Adamas 12, that 1758 on the bay with a $600 BIN would be a good grab. |
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Location: SoCal | There's no way to compare the 2 models. Both are high end Ovations. It's just a personal preference of Elite v. Custom Legend. Of course, one does have a whole lot more bling..... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Kurt,
Get the 1758 tonight!
If you don't like it I could be coerced into taking it from you!
I have been pestering Al about a Custom Elite Contour bowl LX 12 string natural top (with a compass stock). I prefer the multihole over the mono-hole. I should stick with Wood tops until I get to build what Stephen28 and I really want... |
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Location: Gig Harbor, Washington | Thanks, Woody! That's pretty tempting...
I've got a few Q's into Billy, and will certainly pull a trigger if I sense I've got the cross-hairs dialed in!
Any opinions on the "blind comparison" - sound and feel? I'm guessing they'd be almost identical if the actions were set the same.
On the other hand - if I were blind, I wouldn't be able to appreciate all that juju-bling! |
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio | Hi there...
I own a couple of 1758's and have played the custom legend 12's.
I love my 1758's, but to be honest, i had to search for them. I've played a few duds along the way. Not sure why, but a few that I've played didn't have the bass response I was looking for.
My sunburst model just growls, absolutely wonderful. My natural has more of a jangly sound.
All things aside, the CL does have a higher grade of spruce, which does have a chance to sound better.
The only negative I can say about the 1758's in my experience, which comes out to about a dozen I have seen and played in my lifetime, is that most if not all tend to have that bridge pulling, wavy wood behind the bridge issues, especially late 80's early 90's. Mine is no exception, my 1758-1 had to be send back to be "re-braced"...not sure what they did, but it straigtened out the wavyness and they did not change the top..
In spite of these issues, i still love both of mine.
hope this helps..
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I'm poised to pull the trigger on either of these also. Sounds like you're looking for the same things in a 12 that I am. I laid down last night however, and pondered the question in my mind "why do I really need a 12 string?" I'm still asking myself that question, and I'm still poised to pull the trigger. So do me a favor and buy them both NOW!!!! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | OK. Those of you who have recently discarded your 12 strings ... did you do it because you realised you didn't need them, or are you wanting to upgrade?? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Upgrade(s)!
Definitely need at least one. |
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Location: closely held secret | Haven't discarded my 1866 yet, but it's available since I got the 1759. The shallow plays wonderful and sounds great plugged in, but it's no match for the CL acoustically.
I agree with Woody, I'd think any serious player would want to have at least one on hand. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | As far as sound difference ... I really don't have the experience of comparing the two, but I would think the sound quality would be equivelent due to the simular materials used. HOWEVER ... after reading a previous extensive posting on the Elite tops, using plywood to either reinforce the upper bout or enhance the upper-end frequencies, and considering the possible difference in bracing, there MAY be a difference in tonal ranges between the two models. (food for thought) I might even venture to say the deep bowl legend could have a more volume on the lower end. ??? What do ya think?? |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | 6756LX 12 string. The LX models are an improvement, and it shows on this guitar. Try one at your local music store. 12 string acoustics are by nature, more difficult to finger than 6's. The LX 12, with its superior neck features, and brighter sound, covers it all. I own one, and chose it out of more expensive models and makes. |
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Location: closely held secret | Can't say for sure, but if someone would like to send me thier 1758 I'd be happy to conduct a double-blind test... :cool: :cool: |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Buy-It-Now option is gone on the 1758....I don't understand why the seller bothered....first bid gets rid of the B-I-N option since there's no reserve. Opening was $1.00, so it was a no-brainer to throw a bid to get rid of the B-I-N, and hope it stays low.
So it's here for 6 more days, unless someone makes an offer the seller can't refuse....
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I emailed him about the Buy-it-Now option and he said he didn't get that in from the start. He said he was going to contact the Ebay help desk to get the feature back on there. That may actually help you though if you are going to bid on it. It'll keep someone from plucking it off the auction block early. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Or a great time to contact the seller with a good offer and snatch it up behind the scenes! |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | The seller will have to put a reserve on the guitar to put a Buy-It-Now on it....first bid removes it otherwise!!!
There seems no point from a seller's point-of-view to put Buy-It-Now on an item if you don't have a reserve, UNLESS your opening bid is fairly significant to start with. A $1.00 opening bid doesn't warrant it....the B-I-N will disappear quickly.
Yes, if one is an interested buyer, getting rid of a Buy-It-Now is always a good idea!!! Except that someone could always take Stephen's approach.....(but when I sell, I always decline those offers).
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12-String Opinions: 1758 vs. 1759
