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Towers
Posted 2005-12-24 10:41 PM (#124871)
Subject: New Owner


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Hi all,

This is my first post, as I only recently became the owner of an Ovation Elite LX1778. I'm ridiculously excited, but feel a little overwhelmed. This is my first REAL guitar (I learned how to play on my dad's Taylor 410A that I've just sort of had on loan from him for the last three years) and a lot of the technical stuff is still foreign to me.

My question (maybe the first of many on here) is whether it's normal to remove one of the shims to lower the action from the factory setting? I have light gauge strings on the guitar now, but it's still shredding my fingers.

Thanks for any advice on this, or just in general.

-Towers
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-24 11:25 PM (#124872 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: SoCal
Welcome to the board. Great member number.

Also a great guitar that you bought. Feel free to lower the action, it's easy to do. First either loosen the strings or remove them. Then the easiest way from there is to take off the back cover of the guitar. When you look inside, you'll see a wire going to the saddle from the preamp. Gently push up on that wire just under the saddle. You'll see the saddle start to rise. You can then gently pull the whole saddle up and out. Remove one of the shims (I think there might be two under the saddle, a thin one and a thick one. I'd start with the thin one) and put the saddle back down in the bridge. Put strings back on, put the back cover plate back on, tune up and enjoy.

It's be something fun to do on Christmas Day. Have a good one! And don't forget the eggnog.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2005-12-24 11:26 PM (#124873 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: Keller, TX
Most of us do remove one or mo of the shims. Try it, if you don't like it, put it back in!

The calouses will come. Keep playing!
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Towers
Posted 2005-12-25 12:47 AM (#124874 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Thanks guys.
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-25 7:07 AM (#124875 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Good advice, follow it. Welcome.
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texbaz
Posted 2005-12-25 7:21 AM (#124876 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: Waxahachie, Tx
Before you lower the action you might want to check to see how the setup is on the Guitar. In the owners manual that came with the guitar it explains what the guitar is set up at when it leaves the factory (nominal setting).

Da Manual
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-25 10:13 AM (#124877 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Just to be clear on this process, you don't have to wait to pull apart the guitar before you pour yourself some eggnog......
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MWoody
Posted 2005-12-25 11:58 AM (#124878 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner



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Nice choices - both the guitar and in coming here!
Welcome!
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Piers
Posted 2005-12-27 5:35 AM (#124879 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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I also have a 1778-LX. It also shreded my fingers, until I removed all the shims. It plays much better.

Piers
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Styll
Posted 2005-12-27 5:26 PM (#124880 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: USA
Welcome to the world of Ovation...nothing else like em baby! :)


http://www.myspace.com/styllheartandsoul
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Earthbound Misfit
Posted 2005-12-28 12:45 AM (#124881 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: Braman, OK
Welcome, Towers! Just a little more helpful advice: instead of rum, try E&J brandy in your eggnog :D
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-28 9:04 AM (#124882 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner



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Location: Minden, Nebraska
Learning to deal with shims is a basic and essential part of becoming an Ovation player. It is a lot easier than shaving a tusq bridge saddle, or the like.

Oh, by the way, welcome aboard!
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-28 9:18 AM (#124883 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Am I the only one who caught this? :

". . This is my first REAL guitar (I learned how to play on my dad's Taylor) . . ."

:D
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Buckaroo
Posted 2005-12-28 9:38 AM (#124884 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: North Texas
Taylors are real too, real expensive.

You need to set your guitar up the way you want it. Install or remove shims to taste. Factory settings are generic. When you obtain an instrument, suit it to your needs and wants. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-28 9:56 AM (#124885 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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When I first got my 1773 LX, my first thought was to lower the action. But I also knew that in doing that, I'd decrease the tone. I playing it for the last several weeks, I've decided that it's just fine where the factory set it. I like the way it sounds acoustically.
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-28 1:12 PM (#124886 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner



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Location: 6 String Ranch
With multiple guitars the way you play them also figures into this. Some of mine are nice low action and I (try) to play single line stuff on them. For full finger style I like the action higher, easier to play cleanly. The Bluegrass Dreads are sorta high for the volume and with mediums even though they kill my fingers quickly. Just like a carpenter, different tools for different jobs.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-28 2:08 PM (#124887 - in reply to #124871)
Subject: Re: New Owner


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Location: Boise, Idaho
I just changed the strings in the Balladeer last night to Adamas 1818s and really like the change. It had some pretty heavy strings from when I bought it. The action was pretty high, but for a shallow bowl it really boomed. I also took out a shim. It still sounds good, probably not quite as much volume, but plays much better and there is no string buzz with no shims. I'm afraid if I went to any lighter strings, I'd get a buzz. Next, I'm changing the Martin SPs on my Collector to the 1818s.
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