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xnoel
Posted 2005-12-28 5:40 PM (#124561)
Subject: Processor for jazz sound?


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Is there a processor that will give that smooth jazz guitar sound?
I really like the sound and looks of a jazz guitar, the Hamer Improv for instance. The so-called jazz guitars that I can afford would probably be a disappointment.
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-28 6:50 PM (#124562 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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I haven't found one yet. For a while, I was twiddling the parameters on my GNX4 and came up with a patch that made my Steinberger GP (how I miss that one) sound pretty close, but not close enough. When I played the Hamer (and that one even more) through that patch, though it got pretty muddy.

Now that I'm thinking about it, though, maybe you're not after that woody, ES175, Barney Kessel sound I was trying to get. What do you mean when you say 'smooth jazz sound?'

As far as jazz boxes, go, yes, the Improv is quite impressive (the specs and the pics, haven't had the pleasure in person, sadly), but don't discount those less expensive gits, either. If you check out the rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz usenet group, there are pro and semi-pro players there who will tell you that some of the Washburn, Oscar Schmidt, Jay Turser and especially Ibanez (in the $500-$1000 range) are quite nice for what you get, requiring only a setup, pickup swap and strings. ;) I was smitten by an Ibanez AF105 at the local mom and pop...fantastic fit and finish, super acoustic sound, nailed the jazz tone I wanted when plugged into the right amp, and it was only $600. Front, back and sides were all flame maple, done in natural; quite the killer. Then I came across the G&L Junior. Not the same thing, but...you know how GAS is. :)
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xnoel
Posted 2005-12-28 9:04 PM (#124563 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Cruster,
That is the sound that I am looking for.
I had and Ibanez AS120 Artstar, it was a beautiful guitar, red with gold hardware. But, I just couldn't get the sound I wanted, the pups on those are pretty hot.
I am watching some with a floating pickup, that is the style that appeals to me.
I'll check out the AF105
thanks noel
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-28 9:24 PM (#124564 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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A friend just bought one. Don't know if it's the sound you want, but it is a nicely built guitar with a nice sound.
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xnoel
Posted 2005-12-29 9:17 AM (#124565 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Checked out the AF105, appears to be what I am looking for, single floating pickup and the right style.
A couple on eBay, but I will probably shop around where I can get my hands on one to try out. Greatneck guitars in Wichita Falls, TX is an Ibanez dealer and I have dealt with them before.
thanks
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-29 1:37 PM (#124566 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Is the AS120 a 335-style guitar, Xnoel? If it is, I wonder how much of a difference that makes in getting the sound you're after. The AF105 is a full-bodied guitar (as you've seen), and it comes in both dual routed buckers and the floating neck bucker version (so watch what you're bidding on). Let me know what you think when/if you get to check one out. I was impressed and was this close >< to picking it up...but...
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xnoel
Posted 2005-12-29 2:29 PM (#124567 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Yes, the AS120 is a 335 style.
I will most likely go check out some tomorrow.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-29 4:27 PM (#124568 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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My friend has the AF75T. Significantly cheaper than what you're looking at. I don't know what the other differences are, other than the bridge.
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-29 4:44 PM (#124569 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Cheaper or less expensive? As a lawyer, you should know that words have meaning. ;)

I keed! I keed!
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schroeder
Posted 2005-12-29 5:45 PM (#124570 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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If you want the sound of a Super 400 without spending automobile type money, buy a Variax. The super 4 model is absolutely awesome - it even sounds like its got flat wound strings. And if you stick it through a Line 6 amp on a twin reverb setting it sounds like every old jazz man you want to sound like. I kid you not - it is unbelieveable. The best modelling I ever heard.
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-29 6:48 PM (#124571 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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I was in the local Guitarget earlier this week and heard a kid playing a Variax through a Bose column PA. Amazing. He wasn't doing the jazz thing, though.
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cruster
Posted 2005-12-30 8:27 AM (#124572 - in reply to #124561)
Subject: Re: Processor for jazz sound?


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Hey, Xnoel, if you want to check out inexpensive jazz boxes, I see Victor Litz is blowing out a bunch of Jay Turser's for $199, including an alleged ES175 clone.

http://www.victorlitz.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=6312

Scroll down about 1/2 way, they're on the right hand side. Can't vouch for the quality, but for the price, it might be worth a shot.
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