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Tupperware
Posted 2007-01-10 6:49 AM (#121029)
Subject: How much is this collection worth ???


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Sadly this isn't MY collection. But what do you figure this little group is worth ?

Front L-R: 1930 OM28, 1927 0045, 1927 000-45, 1930 OM-28. Rear: Two 1930 OM18's.



Notice the old non-slotheads have banjo style tuners.

Dave
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worshipleader
Posted 2007-01-10 8:06 AM (#121030 - in reply to #121029)
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Oh wow ... that is amazing Dave. For once I'm speechless... :eek:
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-01-10 8:18 AM (#121031 - in reply to #121029)
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You might try reviewing completed auctions on Ebay.


(... Hey Clifford! 6 stalls... No Waiting!)


(...near a million)
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gh1
Posted 2007-01-10 8:20 AM (#121032 - in reply to #121029)
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That is incredible. Is that a gathering, or a single collection? Amazing to think it is a single collection. I have no idea what the collection would be worth $250K? a million? no idea.

Thanks for the picture!

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gh1
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-01-10 8:24 AM (#121033 - in reply to #121029)
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Wow!, original Orchestra Models in that kind of condition go for telephone numbers. 45 styles of that vintage are silly money too. The 0045 looks like it's had a bridge replacement.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-01-10 8:45 AM (#121034 - in reply to #121029)
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This is amazing. So, is there a story behind the pic?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-01-10 9:19 AM (#121035 - in reply to #121029)
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This is ONE guys collection. And not even all of it! He's just a member over on the Martin board. I can't even begin to guess at the value. And No Jeff, you don't find much of this stuff on completed ebay auctions. I just bought an OM which I thought was a nice one, until I saw this stuff! Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-01-10 9:23 AM (#121036 - in reply to #121029)
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Tup, your sarcasm meter isn't working...
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wilblee
Posted 2007-01-10 9:24 AM (#121037 - in reply to #121029)
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And he set them IN THE GRASS !?! If those were mine they would be on the best stands available and flanked by two guys wearing sunglasses and coiled wires leading to their right ear.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-01-10 9:36 AM (#121038 - in reply to #121029)
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When in the house he keeps them on Hercules stands. Dave
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gh1
Posted 2007-01-10 9:44 AM (#121039 - in reply to #121029)
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A single collection -- WOW! How in the heck did he come by all of those? Deep pockets? garage sales in the 60's?, in heritance? Just incredible.

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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-10 10:28 AM (#121040 - in reply to #121029)
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Things I realize looking at the photo:

I don't know diddly about Martins.

Stocks aren't always the best investments.

I need to repaint my adirondac chairs.


Does that quantify as hardcore Martin guitar porn?
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gh1
Posted 2007-01-10 10:43 AM (#121041 - in reply to #121029)
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Originally posted by MWoody:
Does that quantify as hardcore Martin guitar porn?
Almost any ONE of those would qualify -- all of them together, with one owner, ... so far over the top it's unimaginable. I would call BS without the picture -- even then, i'm looking for the cardboard cut-outs.

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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-01-10 11:27 AM (#121042 - in reply to #121029)
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I'm thinking "Martin get together".
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-10 11:28 AM (#121043 - in reply to #121029)
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I come up (with the help of Timm Kummer) with $280K. Good investment grade stuff there.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-01-10 11:32 AM (#121044 - in reply to #121029)
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could this be Andrew St. John's collection?
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-01-10 1:31 PM (#121045 - in reply to #121029)
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Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring? Is it just a matter of age, are they originally-the-only-one-of-its-kind, the-only-one-of-a-multitude-left? (And I do realize that this could make me fair game for the merciless, but I really would like to understand the magnitude of the event pictured above.)

Thank you,
Karen
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cholloway
Posted 2007-01-10 2:10 PM (#121046 - in reply to #121029)
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Karen,
All "pre-war" Martins!
One that was in OK shape sold on the bay last year for ~ $250,000.
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BalladeerFun
Posted 2007-01-10 2:17 PM (#121047 - in reply to #121029)
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that's truly an amazing collection of early Martins....That collection is a retirement plan!
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MWoody
Posted 2007-01-10 2:29 PM (#121048 - in reply to #121029)
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Karen asks a very worthy question.

As a guy with scarce trace of the Sports Gene I would find myself on the edge of testosterone laden discussions with ex-jock but normally quiet people that now were spouting statistics, team history, Rainman absorbsion-rate sports page data and I swear their heads could spin around as they shot fire out of their, er, nostrils!

Pre-war anything usually means less automation and "from another era". A quieter time of slow consumerism and less output.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-01-10 2:30 PM (#121049 - in reply to #121029)
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Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring?
Karen,
Aside from the fact that these Martins are old... they are, in a way, the standards by which Steel String guitar was defined in both, design and sound.

If there is a Steel String guitar equivalent to Stradivarius you are looking at it....
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-10 4:06 PM (#121050 - in reply to #121029)
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Lets not get that far out there. They are significant guitars but there isn't a dreadnaught. That's the king. Also the two 1927 45s are really made for nylon strings. I believe 29 or 30 was the change over time.
Timm's and my estimation are that the OM-28s are around 60 each, the OO-45 is 30, the OOO-45 is 70 because it's so rare, even if it is for nylon strings, and the OM-18s are 25-30.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-01-10 4:09 PM (#121051 - in reply to #121029)
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Not all old Martins are tremendously expensive. I've got a 1917 0018 (nylon string) and I'd be willing to bet that it's not worth more than a couple grand.

I should have had Timm look at it when he was here last year.....
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-01-10 4:09 PM (#121052 - in reply to #121029)
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This is beginning to look like the Antique Road Show. :)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-01-10 4:47 PM (#121053 - in reply to #121029)
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Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
Tuppy and all--
Since I don't know anything about old Martins, could you tell me the significance of the grouping? I can appreciate that they must be very hard to come by, but exactly what makes them so awe-inspiring?
Karen
The OM's are important because they were Martin's first guitar with a 14 fret neck/body joint, supposedly at the request of banjo players as the banjo was waning in popularity at the time (which also possibly explains the use of planetary gear tuners) They also had a longer scale length than the 12-fret 000 they were based on. The OM is considered a benchmark design for fingerstyle players.

Bill, according to the Longworth book steel strings were special order from '27 and standard issue from '28, so these could go either way, it could also explain why the 00 has had the bridge changed.
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