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Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | I'm looking for some advice. I found a 1114 for sale in my area in good shape. Seller says it's got a minor crack that is not affecting the sound of the guitar. From the s/n, it was bulit in 1981. I would like to put nylon strings on it. As it is a deep bowl, i think that the sound should be very good. Is there anything i should look for before goin on with this little project ? Thanks, Yves | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Yes, look for a nylon string guitar and put the correct strings on the Folklore. The bowl is irrelevant, the top is braced for steel strings so the lower tension nylon strings won't work too well. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | The 1114 and 1614 are made for steel strings and putting nylon strings on will not yield very good results. Likewise, the Nylon strung/designed guitars like the 1113 and 1613 are built for nylon strings and steel strings will eventually injure the instrument. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | There. Now you've heard it in english and another language. If you no longer want it post the particulars here. Those are nice guitars! | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | are you trying to procure a replacement for the "fat chick" mike? lol 1114's are great steel string guitars. jason | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | Always on the look out for friends and fine guitars! Just on a budget. | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | I will try to buy it for sure. I can get it for about 300$. I will have to change the strings anyway, so i'm gonna try it with nylons just to see how it sounds. If it's not good, i'll just put a new set of steel strings. I'm sure it's gonna be a very good guitar one way or another. It will complement my 1778LX just fine until i can get my hands on a 1773LX.... :) Thanks for the info, Yves | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | my guess is it will sound dead...jason | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | You're probably right guys...but i'll give it a shot just for the fun of it. Also, if anyone is interested, the site also lists the following Os for sale: Green Custom Legend 1769 (850$) Natural Elite 1868 (1000$) Pacemaker 1615 12 Strings (850$) Balladeer 1111 signed by a local artist (625$) Yves | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho | Mauray, I have a beautiful Folklore. It's a 1614, which is like yours, but with electronics. I got it cheap off ebay (a little over $300) because the guy who owned it tried to do exactly like you did. He thought it was a nylon string guitar. He got as far as 3 strings and then gave up. You will have a tough time getting the 3 nylon strings to stay because the bridge isn't made for nylon strings. It will be hard to keep them from slipping. The nylon strings may not fit in the slots on the nut. The tuners may be a little too wide. And then, if you get them to stay, it won't sound that great. The Folklore is a great sounding and playing steel string guitar. Why even try to see if you can turn it into a poor to fair sounding nylon string guitar? | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | Guess i'll give up then.... :) I'll keep on watching to get me a nylon string Ovation. They don't come around too often....or i'll get me a 1773LX next spring !! Thanks again, Yves | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | mauray,what are you looking to spend for a nylon string ovation?? ive got 2. i may be convinced to part with one...jason | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | I don't know just yet Jason. I got my daughter's birthday bash next weekend, so whatever i have left after this (not much... :) ). Seriously though, anything below $1k would sound interesting to me. Just send me a PM and i'm sure we can come up with something. Yves | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | the one i have for sale is needing a setup. i just bought one in near mint and i dont need 2. once i get my old one cleaned up and set it up ill email you some pics. jason | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | Thanks Jason, i'll be looking forward to that ! Yves | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | no problme. im allways glad to unload one so i can buy something else..lol jason | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho | Mauray, I didn't mean to talk you out of buying the Folklore. It sounds like it was a good deal and you should be able to get your money out of it if you decide not to keep it. Watch ebay for a Classic 1713, 1613, 1763 the Country Artist models, usually 1624s. Check the Ovation site for the discontinued models. I prefer the sound of the 1713 over the 1624, but the 1624 is more playable. The neck is a little narrower. I spent only a little over your $1000 budget for the 1713, 1614 and 1624 all together. The 1713 and 1614 are in perfect condition. The 1624 has a few dings. I don't believe that one guitar fits all and we need some variety. | ||
Mauray1 |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal, Canada | No worries Mark, it won't stop me from getting the 1114. I'm probably gonna try to get it anyway because the price is good and it would be a good match for me. Currently, i'm mostly learning fingerpicking on my classical (2" neck) and then switch to my Elite with the narrow neck. The 1114 would allow to find something right in between... :) I'll keep looking for a classical Ovation for sure and if i can't find something before spring, i'll probably spend my tax return on a 1773LX !! Yves | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho | Now you tell us you already have a classical guitar. Try to find a Country Artist (1624). It has a little narrower neck, semishallow bowl and 14 fret neck. Made to play Classical Gas. That would make a trio with a good deal of variety. | ||
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