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alpep
Posted 2007-05-10 9:24 PM (#100765)
Subject: soliciting on the OFC


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I closed a thread tonight and I am not sure if I should have done it or not. But there seemed to be enough question about it for me to shut it down.

The suspicious part to me was the opening of multiple threads to accomplish the same goal. Why not just keep the original one going?

The bottom line is that this community has been more than generous to many members. some individuals have gone over and above the call of duty and I have told them so in person or on the phone. I have personally participated in some of these requests and have helped to supply gear or whatever.

We are all adults. if you want to contribute do so, BUT also be aware that this is the internet and scam artists are out there. If is smells like a llama it probably is a llama.

With that said I would not object to anyone wanting to help someone out by selling instruments thier instruments and listing them on the site. When it comes to monetary donations there I feel you have to use your better judgement and make your own decisions.

We are a rather tight knit unified group of people We all play Ovation and Adamas guitars, that makes us outcasts from the start. One of "US" that needs help will certainly tug at our heartstrings. But again use your judgement, if you cannot get enough information or do not feel you have the proper information to participate in something of this nature DON'T DO IT.

I have no clue if the latest solicitation was legit or not. The bottom line is ultimately it does not belong here. Many of our membbers belong to their own civic groups, religious organizations charitable organizations etc. and I am positive they do their own good works in the community.

thanks
and sorry for being so long winded
al

edited to add... SEVERAL of the people we helped on this site no longer participate or participate on a merely peripheral basis... think about that!!!
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Waskel
Posted 2007-05-10 9:40 PM (#100766 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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One of the longest coherent posts you've ever made, Al.

Also very well stated.
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-10 9:43 PM (#100767 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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My comments are at the bottom of the first one.

As far as I'm concerned you did the right thing.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-10 9:49 PM (#100768 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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Thanx Al... Kinda dismayed that you had to deal with that...

But I GOTTA ask... What Does a Llama smell like? :confused:

[The first sentence was quite sincere. The second... :rolleyes: ]
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-05-10 10:05 PM (#100769 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Al , you did the right thing . GWB
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-11 12:25 AM (#100770 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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Right thing. ask once. everyone makes their own choices.
(very similar to real life, but it happens in an unreal world.)
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-11 12:28 AM (#100771 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
What Does a Llama smell like?
Very similar to an Alpaca But the alpaca is much cuter and often douses strawberry essence behind its ears.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-05-11 1:48 AM (#100772 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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It depends if its coming at you or walking away. I missed the initial whatever because I've been trying something new... playing my guitars or working in the shop.

If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.


Or wood.
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 6:10 AM (#100773 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Watch out for them thar Llamas, they spit atcha.
Al, you did the right thing.
Regardless of any financial crunch, I wouldn't even ask you guys to buy a guitar for more than it's really worth.
But ask for money??????
NO, no, no, no no,no, nnooo.
I freaked when I saw how you all flaunt your posessions so proudly.
My studio was robbed.
Make sure you have alarms and extra insurance on everything.
Those people suck.
If they can't suck you dry, then they'll suck your studio out.
I'm still not over it.
Deep breath, count to ten...
GIVE NOTHING TO ANYONE, because once you do, they think you owe them.
I have vented.
It was wonderful.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-05-11 6:24 AM (#100774 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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I know it was a tough call for you Al.
But it feels like the right choice.
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 6:34 AM (#100775 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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It WAS the right choice.

Give anonymously to the United way or Salvation Army and certainly to PBS substations.

I will never again give to someone who thinks I have so much it is now my responsibility to keep on giving to the point of having equal to or less than they.
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-11 7:21 AM (#100776 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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SEVERAL of the people we helped on this site no longer participate or participate on a merely peripheral basis... think about that!!! [/QB]

Smart move Al. Better safe than sorry.
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 7:36 AM (#100777 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.

Or wood. [/QB]

Hey, now that you mention it, I'd like an old Fender PA-100 tube PA with dual stacks of 4-10" cones.
Traded that off and was soooo sorry.
Don't you feel sorry for me?
Gimmee, gimmee, gimee.
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saccaguea
Posted 2007-05-11 7:37 AM (#100778 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Ok. What is the address you want it sent to?
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 7:40 AM (#100779 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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What is a 'guea" and do I really need a sacc of it?
:p
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-05-11 7:40 AM (#100780 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Originally posted by MWoody:


If anyone feels sorry for me send guitar parts.


Or wood.
mike ive got about 25 lbs of mahog venneer!!! i had 50lbs of it. i sold a bunch and just sent chris a bunch of it..... how much you want!!!!!!!!! jason
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 7:48 AM (#100781 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Okay, send a self-addressed stamped envelope with an undisclosed amount of cash to....

And you TOO can Have YOUR VERY OWN SACK O JAWEEYA

plus shipping and handling
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 7:55 AM (#100782 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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I used to know a guy...
who dumpster dove for the best veneers in town.
It was in Portland, OR. He really showed me the town!!!
I'm half-kidding.
This guy got Gerber knives and multi-plier parts from the Gerber factory dumpster, the finest veneers left over from the manufacture of large commercial art and funiture and hand-made tiles from Italy left over from State buildings.
You can find the neatest things without ever asking for anything..
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jujurocks
Posted 2007-05-11 8:05 AM (#100783 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Originally posted by saccaguea:
Ok. What is the address you want it sent to?
I hope you know I was jus' pokin' fun.
I do so hope you can take it and toss it back.

Don't buy it, because it was a scam!
It wanted to take you for all was ba-loomin worth...
(hence, the meaning of the thread)
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MWoody
Posted 2007-05-11 9:18 AM (#100784 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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As a Rigger Apprentice in a Shipyard I got the garbage detail quite often. My motto was "At your disposal"!

Had a pretty interesting work wardrobe going on when the Aircraft Carriers were in...

Jason - thanks but I'm good.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-05-11 9:41 AM (#100785 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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damn i cant give this stuff away..lol maybe ill cover a bare tele body with it and do the sides in koa venneer.......jason
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-05-11 10:05 AM (#100786 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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My dad used to work at a landfill in Staten Island and he used to bring home all sorts of cool stuff.

THe best was stuff that was seized and dumped - tons of Rolexx watches, blank cassettes, cases of Heinekin. And lots of comic books in great shape.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-11 11:46 AM (#100787 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC



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I spent one day working at the dump with a buddy decades ago. Came home with a complete set of expensive china, (including gravy boat and platter) a radio, and a couple of other things I forget.

Lost the china in a breakup (or was she throwing it at me? It's so long ago.) but the radio worked for decades.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-05-11 4:45 PM (#100788 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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Maybe not the same thing,but anyway...
An ad.in the paper read " If you want to get rich .than send 20 bucks to..xxx...with a selfadressed/stamped envelope " ...about 2000 people did...the guy did write back..he wrote.." Do Like Me "....and that was Legal !! :)
( It Happened,No Joke !! )

Vic :cool:
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Grif
Posted 2007-05-11 4:55 PM (#100789 - in reply to #100765)
Subject: Re: soliciting on the OFC


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I think it's time to let this subject go, someone tried to do some good here, granted he might have broke OFC policy, but I don't think he should be compared with some sleazy pyramid scheme.
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