|
|
Joined:
March 2007
Posts: 841
Location: CA | Good explanation of carbon fiber at wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber
Sounds to me like they just can't make it fast enough to suit present demand (thanks Boeing). I'm sure that will change with time.
RE: Adamas — I'm sure I'm in the minority and may be struck dead by lightning for saying this, but I consider most of the paint jobs on Adamas guitars as being stupid ugly, especially the sparkly ones. Looks like someone smeared childrens toothpaste on then clear coated it. The guitar Serge is playing in the photo may sound great, but the two-tone scheme is hideous. (No offense). So I would also welcome just 'plain paint' Adamas guitars. That said, I also own a 1778T that I am absolutely in love with and can't imagine ever wanting anything more. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2006
Posts: 848
Location: Munich, Germany | Oddball, just wondering - did you ever own one of those uglypainted textured tops?
Just curious - I had the same opinion as you for years, collected only wood topped ovations - with exception of one W597, that I loved (and love) for the bare, glossy laquered carbon fibre.
Then I bought the 1581 Reissue - just because of collector's reasons - and thought it was pretty ugly. It hung about half a year unplayed at the wall, then I thought, this fugly guitar did cost so much - I should have to play it. Then I heard it's voice - and I fell in love with it.
Since then I am addicted to these matte, creamy coloured guitars. Okay, I still don't like the blue ones - but other than that - beige and brown are looking awsome, even the red I like in the meantime, and know what: The broccoli heads of the Adamas I and Slotheads, that I thought was the worst invention ever left the factory - I love them.
There is something about the voice of these guitars, that let you even fall in love with their looks. Although you always thought, they are the ugliest guitars Ovation has ever made.
Kurt
If you say now. well, most of the Adamas guitars in your collection are black - that's just because my collection is not finished yet! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Oddball,
Some guitars are great wall art where you admire the intricacies and balance of the grain, some are admired for how they play and the "voice".
When you go with a textured top graphite, not a lot of choices for the finish.
Whether the Adamas was finished in Sear's Green Goblin latex or the stock finishes, the textured top Adamas I or II is a superb instrument. Personally, I like the -7 Adamas II that I traded to Serge and the -7 Adamas I that I sold to Randy. I have two early -7's that I will keep.
Originally, I wasn't excited about the -2 of the 47RI. Since I got it, I have no regrets...a beautiful finish. For the -8, you almost need a timeline as the finish has changed over the years.
For me, instrument 1st, then appearance. So, I can't really be objective. However, a number of wood box players did the drool routine when they had a chance to play the 47RI.
If someone doesn't get excited about the Adamas, fine. I'm not through buying or trading...less competition. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2007
Posts: 146
Location: Japan | Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:
Oddball, just wondering - did you ever own one of those uglypainted textured tops?
Just curious - I had the same opinion as you for years, collected only wood topped ovations - with exception of one W597, that I loved (and love) for the bare, glossy laquered carbon fibre.
Then I bought the 1581 Reissue - just because of collector's reasons - and thought it was pretty ugly. It hung about half a year unplayed at the wall, then I thought, this fugly guitar did cost so much - I should have to play it. Then I heard it's voice - and I fell in love with it.
Since then I am addicted to these matte, creamy coloured guitars. Okay, I still don't like the blue ones - but other than that - beige and brown are looking awsome, even the red I like in the meantime, and know what: The broccoli heads of the Adamas I and Slotheads, that I thought was the worst invention ever left the factory - I love them.
There is something about the voice of these guitars, that let you even fall in love with their looks. Although you always thought, they are the ugliest guitars Ovation has ever made.
Kurt I used to look at pictures of the Adamas (back when there was only one model) and think how ugly they were with the carved headstock and bridge. Then one day I went into the music store and there it was, in all it's ugliness.
Had to play it, because it was there, and to this day I remember getting ready to play a C chord and thinking how ugly the guitar was, until half way through my first strum... I need this guitar!
Well my first Adamas wasn't to come along for another few years and just out of the blue, the Adamas II came out!
Same sound, same everything, with no ugly carvings, for way less money!
Now I just got my first Adamas I last month and my beautiful SMT is retired from stage life!
I'm already used to that damn headstock now and dreaming of a Slothead with cutaway... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2007
Posts: 841
Location: CA | I appreciate and take all your comments to heart about Adamas sound. I've lived a rather deprive existence to this point in that I've never actually heard or played an Adamas myself. Like everyone else, I'm sure I could learn to love the paint job if it sounded THAT good. And I could always close my eyes and pretend it was pretty.
I just wonder why they don't at least offer them in non-Barbie color schemes. I'm sure it's just me. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2006
Posts: 848
Location: Munich, Germany | Did you ever take a look at these:
1681 brown
1689 brown
1881 red
These colours are great - you have to see them in reality. They do not have those baby colour schemes.
Kurt |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | don't feed the troll |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Oddball:
I appreciate and take all your comments to heart about Adamas sound. I've lived a rather deprive existence to this point in that I've never actually heard or played an Adamas myself. Like everyone else, I'm sure I could learn to love the paint job if it sounded THAT good. And I could always close my eyes and pretend it was pretty.
I just wonder why they don't at least offer them in non-Barbie color schemes. I'm sure it's just me. I didn't understand the hoopla surrounding the Adamas, either, Oddball. I mean, it's a guitar with a carbon top. Big deal. Then I schlepped out to the OFC Gathering in May and heard more Adamases (Adamii?) than I care to count.
A week later I was buying my own. It's the blue burst color that seems to be disliked by some, but to be honest, the only color I see when I play it is walnut or whatever the neck is. I watch my fretting hand, not my picking hand, eh?
You have to play one. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 1889
Location: Central Massachusetts | troll: In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding.
Sorry, I don't see any trolls here. Just somebody expressing an honest opinion. That's why there are different flavors of ice cream, right? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | dvd
as administrator I can see information hidden to all other members.
this week I like peach. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by dvd:
troll... Quit trolling, Dave. :p
I'm kidding, of course. Are you going to pSeries/Linux in San Antonio in Sep? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2004
Posts: 1374
| Originally posted by Oddball:
I appreciate and take all your comments to heart about Adamas sound. I've lived a rather deprive existence to this point in that I've never actually heard or played an Adamas myself. Like everyone else, I'm sure I could learn to love the paint job if it sounded THAT good. And I could always close my eyes and pretend it was pretty.
I just wonder why they don't at least offer them in non-Barbie color schemes. I'm sure it's just me. the lightning bolt hits you with the first big open chord! or it doesn't... but I don't know of anyone that hasn't exclaimed wow!! when they play their first TT Adamas.
Glenn |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by alpep:
dvd
as administrator I can see information hidden to all other members.
this week I like peach. I always thought you were psychic. Millions of peaches? Peaches for free? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Eat a Peach. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by cwk2:
Eat a Peach. Name that movie and win a...uh, three Jim Dunlop Jazz Stubby picks (1mm, red lexan):
"I could eat a peach for hours..." |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2006
Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by cruster:
A week later I was buying my own. It's the blue burst color that seems to be disliked by some, but to be honest, the only color I see when I play it is walnut or whatever the neck is. I watch my fretting hand, not my picking hand, eh?
You have to play one. I had never played an Adamas until last Saturday...
And I always thought that blue-reverse-whatever was Fugly.
When I played one, it sounded awesome, and I said, "I gotta get me one of these..."
The rest of the quote was, "...And I oughta get it this Ugly Blue, so everyone will Know that it is an Adamas!" Cuz I haven't seen another guitar that particular color. :eek: (not quite that shade of blue) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2005
Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | OMA, gh1 had a nice one he'd sell you as of a month ago. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2003
Posts: 1889
Location: Central Massachusetts | Mark, that is the very Adamas that OMA played at the shindig that you missed. YSBT!
Cruster, no they don't let me get out much. Would love to meet you at the River Walk but it'll have to be another time. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
July 2007
Posts: 325
Location: Texas | NOOO - a low cost Adamas???? bite your tongue and say 150 Hail Mary's. (I am not even Catholic) :)
A low cost Adamas is like driving a chevy and saying it is a Lamborghini!! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2007
Posts: 841
Location: CA | Never saw that definition of troll. I don't see how I could be considered in that category, or for the life of me what Al Pep might see "hidden to the rest of you" that would make him think that. For the record, I'm not 'baiting' anybody. As pointed out, just expressing an opinion. This is a great forum with interesting folks and I'm just as concerned as anyone else that it stay that way. |
|
| |
Ovation should make a low-cost Adamas
