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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-07-24 11:39 PM (#89092 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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If I had a grand to spend and could find a good 1537, that's what I'd get. But I already did that.

Oops. I'm too late.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-25 12:36 AM (#89093 - in reply to #89067)
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Congrats Rupe; you should be happy for a long while and when you get the urge (as you will....) there ae some great buys out there of other Ovation and Adamas guitars...for now, enjoy!
Blessings...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-25 12:41 AM (#89094 - in reply to #89067)
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and let us know how the new guitar is and how you like it!
Blessings...
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surfnguitar
Posted 2007-07-25 9:55 AM (#89095 - in reply to #89067)
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Location: Ky
the GC salespeople wouldn't know a sound hole from their own butthole
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FlySig
Posted 2007-07-25 10:31 AM (#89096 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help



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Rupe, you got a great guitar! I was going to recommend the 1778T, but you already took the plunge. You won't be sorry with what you bought.

Next you'll be asking about strings, so I'll go ahead and recommend Martin Marquis Phosphor Bronze, light guage. None better!
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-07-25 10:36 AM (#89097 - in reply to #89067)
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Congrats. You did well.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-25 12:05 PM (#89098 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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the GC salespeople wouldn't know a sound hole from their own butthole
Good one Tim...

(From GC Sales instructional manual):
O - soundhole
O - butthole

Blessings...
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Rupe
Posted 2007-07-25 12:49 PM (#89099 - in reply to #89067)
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Location: Richmond, VA
I ask again - what was that number I was given earlier to call?

And another question - what is the significance of "Adamas"? I see that a lot in reference to Ovations.

Thanks for the string recommendation. What is your reasoning behind that? Is that recommendation "guitar-specific", or general in nature? What quality do they possess that others don't?

Sorry - I'm very new to all of this.

I loved the GC soundhole quip! LOL!

Rupe
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-07-25 1:02 PM (#89100 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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The number you were given was Al Pepiak's, among other colorful titles wears co-founder of this site, is an authorized Ovation/Adamas/Hamer dealer and is a great resource for new, used and collectible gits. He's also an all around nice guy but we try not to say that too often. Give him a call - you'll be glad you did.

Adamas is the upper line of the Ovation brands. Try to find one in a music store in your area, if you can. A step up in price from some of the Ovations but absolutely fantastic guitars.

On strings, you'll get a ton of different opinions here (as well as anyplace else, I'm sure). Highly subjective. Get a few opinions, try what you think sounds good and experiment from there. On being new? We were all there at one point - hang out here and you'll learn!
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-25 1:06 PM (#89101 - in reply to #89067)
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856-933-0374
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FlySig
Posted 2007-07-25 1:17 PM (#89102 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help



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Originally posted by Rupe:

Thanks for the string recommendation. What is your reasoning behind that? Is that recommendation "guitar-specific", or general in nature? What quality do they possess that others don't?
My daughter has a 1778T Red Flame, which is similar to the guitar you bought. We tried a variety of types of strings, guages, and manufacturers. The Phosphor Bronze had a better, fuller, clear sound. The 80/20 varieties were too brassy to my ears on her Ovation.

Between different brands of Phosphor Bronze, the Martin Marquis just sing and have a richness that others lacked.

As has been mentioned, you'll get a variety of opinions on strings for your O, many of which will differ from mine. The best thing to do is buy a variety of brands/styles/formulations and try each for a couple of weeks. You'll quickly learn whether you prefer Phos/Bnz or 80/20. You might really like coated strings, or you might find them sounding a bit dead on your guitar.

Picks also affect the sound a bit, but not nearly as much as different strings. I would suggest starting with a plain pick, like the ubiquitous Fender medium or the Tortex medium. After a little while you will have a baseline and then experiment with different thicknesses, materials, and styles.

Then you'll be ready to add more guitars. Then an amp or two, some effects boxes, fancy cords, a few straps, some stands, a wall hanger or two, etc. I hope you make good money now, 'cause you're on the road to bankruptcy!
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Beggin
Posted 2007-07-25 1:26 PM (#89103 - in reply to #89067)
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Have fun with the new guitar Fred! Let us hear back from you, once you have had a chance to play it a while.

Visit often and watch out for the GAS!
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-25 1:28 PM (#89104 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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The only recommendation I have when it comes to strings, is that if you're new to acoustic guitar, start with extra light strings for a month, then move up to custom lights for two months, than to regular lights, usually 12-52 give or take 1 100's of an inch. More than 13-54 you're getting into medium territory. And less than 11-51 gets wimpy. This is to get your hand strength up. Then play a bunch of different brands till you find the one you like.
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Rupe
Posted 2007-07-25 6:40 PM (#89105 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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BegginJM, my name isn't really Fred. That's just a goofy name I sometimes use when I answer the phone at work when it's someone I know calling, just to freak them out. I decided to make it my handle on Ebay. Try it some time. Answer the phone "Fred Jackson" and see how they respond. Sometimes they think they've dialed a wrong number.

Thanks for the info on strings. Man - so many decisions and options. I can SEE where this could get costly and obsessive, almost to the point of esoterica. I've been there and done that in stereo systems. Luckily I'm done with that crazy budget busting phase.

The guitar has been shipped and it's on its way. I guess I saved about $300 buying it used. Looks like the best deal on Ebay for a similar new one is around $1000.

I'll be around...

Rupe
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Rupe
Posted 2007-07-28 11:25 AM (#89106 - in reply to #89067)
Subject: Re: New here and need help


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Location: Richmond, VA
I finally got my guitar! Fed Ex required a signature and I wasn't home, so I had to gp pick it up this morning. The guitar was described as "like new", but did have a 1" gouge in the bowl right next to the pre-amp which disappointed me. Other than that, it was perfect. Thanks for the help.

Rupe
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