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WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-08-02 11:11 PM (#87848 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Ya know what would have been a cool guitar. A strat style guitar, nice 4-bolt neck with DiMarzio pickups in a H-S-S format with a coil top on the humbucker. Add a Kahler tremolo system, with smaller frets and Schaller tuners.. Maybe even route the edge of the guitar for a little more comfort. That would be a cool guitar that would tear up most strat copies out there. Oh wait... Ovation did that. :)
Mine doesn't have the Kahler, but the GS II does. Maybe I'll sneak up on another one. Got any extras in teal, Miles?
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richardd
Posted 2007-08-03 1:07 AM (#87849 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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I don't think the Strat and LP rule the world anyway but that being said.

It's more than just marketing, both are great designs but along with guitars themselves goes all the history, artists who played them, songs recorded on them etc that people buy into.

Someone mentioned on an earlier thread that the execution of these designs leaves much to be desired,I agree. Gibson in particular

If it was all down to simply the quality of the instruments themselves everyone would be playing Hamers and Tom Anderson's over Strats and LP's

....but what do I know, I'm just a Gretsch guy
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alpep
Posted 2007-08-03 8:58 AM (#87850 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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Originally posted by richardd:
I don't think the Strat and LP rule the world anyway but that being said.

try to sell a fender made in (fill in the blank of any other country outside of the USA) and almost any other strat style guitar even if it was made in the same factory along side fenders

the fender will always sell and for more money.
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Beal
Posted 2007-08-03 2:30 PM (#87851 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?



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It is the F word Al, that's why!
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guitar_hack
Posted 2007-08-05 12:52 PM (#87852 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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it depends on what sound you are going for I LOVE THE FENDER SPARKLE AND WARMTH, as a matter of fact besides my ultra 1527, my only electric right now is a 51' squier i got for 99 bucks i put pearly gates in the bridge and a duncan scorcher in the neck, it absoultly screams and sparkles the blues out, i love it, and everyone who plays it loves it.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-08-05 3:46 PM (#87853 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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Screamy Blues...?!...O`Kay..

Vic
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guitar_hack
Posted 2007-08-05 6:08 PM (#87854 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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oh but of course, how silly of me. the blues cant be screamed out of a guitar. how silly SRV was for thinking such things.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-08-05 6:54 PM (#87855 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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I like the Idea though.... :D

Vic
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2007-08-09 12:22 AM (#87856 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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For my personal taste (so don't read too much into this) I'll put my Ovation LTD up against any Strat or Les Paul. Plays like butter, dozens of tones, comfortable and not too heavy. If it wasn't for whammy bars I wouldn't have any other solidbodies. It just fits me.
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richardd
Posted 2007-08-09 5:01 AM (#87857 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by richardd:
I don't think the Strat and LP rule the world anyway but that being said.

try to sell a fender made in (fill in the blank of any other country outside of the USA) and almost any other strat style guitar even if it was made in the same factory along side fenders

the fender will always sell and for more money.
The question was about these guitars as instruments not sales volume
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adamas72
Posted 2007-08-09 8:49 PM (#87858 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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I found a worn out SG stored in a garage for many years and acquired it (free). The past owners (moved on to higher ed) played the crap out of it. Past attempts to re hone and fit new pickups were hacked by a local shop. I have played it and enjoyed the old sounds from this 32+ year young guitar. I have since dis-assembled it. I have re fretted, honed, bought new p-80 pickups, new bridge, and as an experiment a new maple top. The carving is done, the pickups will be installed soon ect....
So what is a Fender, Gibson or any brand, WOOD, METAL, WIRE, electro waves, PAINT but the best design, price, exposure to the public, availability, is what makes a difference. Check out Zemaitis Guitars if you want high end material on a common design.
I love my Adamas, play it as much as I can it is unique and there is so much to explore, tapping, ect.

Play on.
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ChatMan
Posted 2007-08-10 9:32 AM (#87859 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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Originally posted by richardd:
Originally posted by alpep:
Originally posted by richardd:
I don't think the Strat and LP rule the world anyway but that being said.

try to sell a fender made in (fill in the blank of any other country outside of the USA) and almost any other strat style guitar even if it was made in the same factory along side fenders

the fender will always sell and for more money.
The question was about these guitars as instruments not sales volume
I believe the question was:

" WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?"

Which probably has much more to do with sales volume than the merits of the instrument as the penultimate guitar.
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Tiednbound
Posted 2007-08-10 11:24 AM (#87860 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?


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At one time, there were only three real choices for electrics .... Gibson, Fender, and Gretch. Fenders were cheaper, lighter, and easy for owners to maintain. If you were a kid trying to make sounds like you heard on vinal or the radio, you bought a Fender and moved into the garage.
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muzza
Posted 2007-08-11 10:13 AM (#87861 - in reply to #87823)
Subject: Re: WHY DOES THE FENDER STRATOCASTER &THE GIBSON LES PAUL RULE THE ELECTRIC GUITAR WORLD?



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Excuse my ignorance, but, like Tupp, I'm not an electric type of guy.

But it surprises me that there has been little or no comparison between these 2 iconic guitars and 'our own' solid body Ovations.

Personally, I love the look of the preacher, viper and UKII, but hate the breadwinner.

Could someone in the know give us acoustic types a comparison between the famous 2 and the 'O' solid bodies? (Just in case I feel the need to acquire an electric in the distant future. I'd prefer it to be an 'O'.)

Or maybe this should be a separate thread??
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