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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-06 7:37 AM (#83501 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Dave, one thing I have learned from 15 years of dealing with people (usually older "set in stone", "stuck" people) is that when you find you can't teach old dogs new tricks...Raise Puppies!
I'm really looking forward to Amelia in March!

:D :rolleyes:
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-09-06 8:01 AM (#83502 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: South of most, North of few
Originally posted by Mauvais Beal (cwk2):
Do these old fat white guys have pony tails?
:D :D
I could probably make one up out of the hair on my back.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-09-06 7:30 PM (#83503 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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I wonder how many threads have been devoted to arguing with Dave. Some people think lawyers are argumentative.
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Beal
Posted 2007-09-06 7:59 PM (#83504 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Dave Who?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2007-09-06 8:12 PM (#83505 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed



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We need to understand that Dave might not have been burped recently or enough... de burp
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-09-06 8:39 PM (#83506 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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I think that story he recently told about Temp's room pretty much proves he doesn't get burped enough.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-09-06 8:48 PM (#83507 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: SoCal
Do YOU want to be the one responsible for burping him? I sure as hell don't......
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-09-06 8:52 PM (#83508 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: Copenhagen Denmark
Oocheewawwah.. :)

Vic

..how would a Martin sound when fitted to a Deep Bowl..??..
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Styll
Posted 2007-09-08 12:40 PM (#83509 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: USA
personally...
I have tried several...several times in contacting Kaman...Ovation...Adamas in trying to secure an endorsement deal.
I have taken these guitars literally around the world... I have been approached on my sound, the guitars, etc... at each performance.

Their list of endorsees never seem to change...which is fine...but the list should be expanded.

Im not saying... pick me pick me... but i know i've certainly spread the word.

Their marketing is indeed weak...and will continue to be so...

why not listen to those who actually play them and stand behind them? sounds like a good idea to me :)
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Tiednbound
Posted 2007-09-08 1:46 PM (#83510 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: Illinois, U.S.A.
Originally posted by Little Boy Jefferson:
i think the best thing some company should start doing is inventing better bridge for acoustic guitar. i have yet to play acoustic guitar that has perfect intonation. when i can move saddles under strings, i can always set my electric perfectly, but on acoustic i have to learn how to avoid out-of-tune areas or sth.
(snip,snip)
I have three Takamine acoustics with PERFECT intonation, at least as perfect as can be discerned by the human ear and an ordinary electronic tuner. The "trick" is in adjusting the in-tune, open string to also make that 12th fret pitch also in-tune.

Just as in adjusting the saddles on, say, a fender Stratocaster, minute adjustments make significant changes in measured pitch. On the acoustic, there is a very narrow range you can "fine-tune" an on-pitch open string, so that it nudges the pitch on that 12th fret to also be perfectly in tune as measured by an electronic tuner.

Dealing with newer strings is a challenge, since they take awhile to "relax-out" excess elasticity. Steel strings are better about this than nylon. At the beginning of their life together, getting all six strings to stay in pitch (let alone all in perfect intonation) is an art. Keep the recording machines turned on standby, because when you get them spot-on, you'll only have a limited amount of playing time to record that perfect sound.

Also, picking up a guitar out of the case means the strings are at room temperature. After a little playing time, your fingers have warmed the strings. Guess what. The tone properties of each string have changed .... and not by the same amount .... grrrr! So another hint is, warm up the strings and your fingers before attempting the final intonation tuning.
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Tiednbound
Posted 2007-09-08 2:15 PM (#83511 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: Illinois, U.S.A.
Originally posted by vision:
Old Man Arthur - maybe I am out of touch but I never heard of Lacuna Coil. I will have to check it out however, this is not a house hold named guitarist. Help us Mother Ship!!!! LOL
Give a listen, watch their videos here .
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Tiednbound
Posted 2007-09-08 2:28 PM (#83512 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: Illinois, U.S.A.
Originally posted by Tupperware:
I can't believe I'm about to write this for the nth time, but here goes...

Ovation will never, ever break out of the malaise that thay have been in for the last 25 years until they get rid of the fucking plastic bowl. (snip, snip)
Not to disrespect any points being made, but isn't it ironic the plastic bowl is getting "diss-ed" by a member with a screen name of " Tupperware "?
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Tiednbound
Posted 2007-09-08 3:17 PM (#83513 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed


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Location: Illinois, U.S.A.
Lawdy, I can't believe I just read this whole thread .... but, here are my parting thoughts:

- The engineer at the studio mixer doesn't give a crapolla about whether the bowl is plastic or rare Brazilian rosewood, or which locale in the world the wooden top was harvested from.

- Fender puts a major effort in endorsements and in putting out expensive "signature" electric models; C.F. Martin won't even lend a former Beetle one of their acoustic models for a studio session. The engineer in the recording studio doesn't give a crapolla about brands or marketing instruments.

- The guitar you park on the stand next to your favorite chair at home is the best guitar in YOUR world. The engineer in the recording studio doesn't give a crapolla about you or your home furnishings.

Great, I've just doomed myself in my next incarnation to return to earth as a studio engineer ..... grr!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-08 10:56 PM (#83514 - in reply to #83376)
Subject: Re: New Marketing needed



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
"Great, I've just doomed myself in my next incarnation to return to earth as a studio engineer ..... grr!"

Don't know about 'Studio Engineers' but when working a sound-board and carrying amps, All I cared about was the Free Beer!
Or mixed drinks if it was a yuppie dive!
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