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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 9:19 AM (#558946)
Subject: ID Please



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Hello and thank you for allowing me to join.

I just purchased my first Ovation and am very happy with it so far.


The paper label is gone, there is a serial number of 7000658, but I have read it is probably a Korean
built and the serials add up to nonsense..

I found the guitar on the GC website; it was advertised as a CE48.
After doing a bit of research I concluded it wasn't the above as it has Diamond inlays in the fretboard.

It has a Birdseye top, Shallow body, gold tuners, the diamond inlays, 14 frets to body, 6 steel string and an OP24+ preamp. no tuner.
There is no wear on the frets, top or dings etc.
After a good cleaning and oil to the bridge and fretboard, new 53-12 D'Addario strings - she's a happy girl.

I am going to attempt to post a couple pictures - I appreciate any help - David
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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 9:27 AM (#558947 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: RE: ID Please



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From what i can find - I suspect it is a CC247?

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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 10:23 AM (#558948 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: RE: ID Please



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guitar

 

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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 10:46 AM (#558949 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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i also cross posted on the gear page - it shows a picture

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/ovation-id-pleas...
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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 10:46 AM (#558950 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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i also cross posted on the gear page - it shows a picture

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/ovation-id-pleas...
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2023-12-30 3:22 PM (#558951 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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I've upgraded you to full membership and moved this post to the General Forum where you can post pictures (use the Advanced Reply link) and more importantly others can respond.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2023-12-30 3:25 PM (#558952 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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FWIW, I see the label in the sound holes, doesn't it have the model on that label? (Kinda tricky to see it, but it should be there)
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Love O Fair
Posted 2023-12-30 3:28 PM (#558953 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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Looking good. Glad you are happy with it.
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tpa
Posted 2023-12-30 5:55 PM (#558955 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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Happy NGD. I think the answer you got at TGP (Celebrity CC257 Deluxe) could be right - or a CS257 if it is super shallow bowl. Color looks CCBQ. Model spec.: http://web.archive.org/web/20100104084911/http://ovationguitars.com... the actual preamp may differ but the model be the same (yours is not OP30 if it has no tuner)

Scroll to second last page here: http://www.ovationtribute.com/Catalogues/2002_Ovation_Plug_It_In_Ca... to see the difference between super shallow and mid depth bowl.

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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 9:12 PM (#558956 - in reply to #558955)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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Yes no tuner op24+ and I was hoping for a tuner.
it is a shallow bowl: right at 4 inches at its deepest.

Cocobolo not birdseye?

It’s a joy to play.
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BluesDavid
Posted 2023-12-30 9:15 PM (#558957 - in reply to #558952)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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There’s no label…

There is a silver grey sticker in the bowl near the neck joint.

No label… It makes me a bit uneasy as it could be HOT?

But I bought it from GC: im good… right?
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tpa
Posted 2023-12-31 3:47 AM (#558960 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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Most likely a CC257 then, from mid/late '90s
If you suspect stolen due to the missing label - hardly. The label says only the brand, the model and the country of origin. No s/n or similar traceability info. An on board tuner is very convenient. The competition however is hard. Many players use a processing pedal which may have a (better) tuner builtin and I prefer a good quality clip-on. To each his/her own preference.

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tpa
Posted 2023-12-31 4:32 AM (#558961 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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I am a bit amused by the shame that is connected with asian produced goods back when the global market was emerging "Pacific-based subsidiary" is a bit pathetic. It was made ... umm ... you know ... the place we dont talk about. Mostly the Celebrities are nice guitars. I had a CC-024 for some time but sold it to get a model with the super shallow body. If you dive into the many threads here you may also find that quality of production is not necessarily a matter of geography and lemons exist everywhere. A guitar from the 90s which still plays plays well and makes you want to play it is a good guitar.

Edited by tpa 2023-12-31 4:34 AM
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BluesDavid
Posted 2024-01-01 12:12 PM (#558973 - in reply to #558955)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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tpa - 2023-12-30 5:55 PM

Happy NGD. I think the answer you got at TGP (Celebrity CC257 Deluxe) could be right - or a CS257 if it is super shallow bowl. Color looks CCBQ. Model spec.: http://web.archive.org/web/20100104084911/http://ovationguitars.com... the actual preamp may differ but the model be the same (yours is not OP30 if it has no tuner)

Scroll to second last page here: http://www.ovationtribute.com/Catalogues/2002_Ovation_Plug_It_In_Ca... to see the diifference between super shallow and mid depth bowl.



It would be a CS257 then - shallow bowl.

The top is similair to the one pictured here on Reverb;

https://reverb.com/item/77007580-rare-ovation-cs-2000-celebrity-delu...

which is another reson i went after it.
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BluesDavid
Posted 2024-01-01 12:46 PM (#558974 - in reply to #558955)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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http://www.ovationtribute.com/Catalogues/Ovation%201997%20Catalog/O...

page 13 - CS257-AB Autumn Burst - I think we have a winner.

I am really loving this guitar.

It does not have a full sonic range like my Yairi or Taylor,

But it feels good to get out for practice and take to a practice.

who knows, maybe I will gig with it too?
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FlySig
Posted 2024-01-01 4:03 PM (#558975 - in reply to #558961)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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tpa - 2023-12-31 3:32 AM

I am a bit amused by the shame that is connected with asian produced goods back when the global market was emerging "Pacific-based subsidiary" is a bit pathetic. It was made ... umm ... you know ... the place we dont talk about. Mostly the Celebrities are nice guitars. I had a CC-024 for some time but sold it to get a model with the super shallow body. If you dive into the many threads here you may also find that quality of production is not necessarily a matter of geography and lemons exist everywhere. A guitar from the 90s which still plays plays well and makes you want to play it is a good guitar.


Definitely agree with your last sentence - any guitar which makes you want to play it is a good guitar!

The range of Ovation products from Applause to Adamas are all very good instruments for their price point. Some of the lower priced instruments turn out to be far better than they should be. It seems some of the price difference is in the human time spent on final details like frets or the clearcoat. I've seen really cheap guitars (like $70 Jasmine) which sound really quite good but they need a few hours of labor towards a decent setup and fixing slight fret problems.

The offshore products get a bad reputation because they are built to a lower standard intentionally. The Asian factories do a great job of meeting the specifications asked of them.
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tpa
Posted 2024-01-01 4:31 PM (#558977 - in reply to #558974)
Subject: Re: ID Please


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BlueDavid - 2023-12-31 7:46 PM
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I am really loving this guitar.
...

That is important.

BlueDavid - 2023-12-31 7:46 PM
...
It does not have a full sonic range like my Yairi or Taylor,
...

SSB Ovations may appear weak in the low end when strummed with a plectrum.
Their strong sides in my point of view:
1. Finger picking
2. Plugged in
3. They actually stand out fine in a mix
4. They are cool
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BluesDavid
Posted 2024-05-05 9:02 AM (#560219 - in reply to #558946)
Subject: Re: ID Please



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update - apologies for the delay.

I needed to set up the guitar;

there was a "hump" around the 14th fret making it impossible to play from 10-11 up on strings 1-3.

I tightened the truss rod and have filed and polished all the frets leveling the fret board.

unsure why it needed this; the wood is level.

The action needs lowered maybe an 1/16th at the 12th fret.

I have replaced the saddle with bone and oh my what a difference.. the tones thru the amp are lush.

I am not a professional set up tech, but I am good with my hands and do the research before I start.


Contemplating buying a case which fits better. the case I have is for a mid and I have a towel in there to keep my shallow from moving around and level.

Gator makes a case called the transit- soft and padded or I may try to find a HSC for a shallow.

Any suggestions?



I am still glad I pulled the trigger on this guitar.

It's just so nice to play even moreso now- and it has this beautiful top




Edited by BluesDavid 2024-05-05 9:18 AM
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