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DetlefMichel
Posted 2021-12-07 11:55 AM (#556546)
Subject: VIP 5 "images" question



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I´m quite familiar with Ovations but not with electrics. Thus i prefer to play acoustic but every now and then I use an amplifier, and then I use my Adamas.....
I have a 2008 collector with a VIP 5 preamp. With a selector switch I can choose between 5 digital preset sounds that were made with microphones, (as far as I did understand the description), and I can add these to the normal Ovation pickup sound with a fader, as if there was a mic on board. Works very nice.
But there is no explanation in the booklet WHAT sounds these are. Different microphones? Different mic positions? I only know that I like pos.4 the most. But does anyone know what these "images" are made of? I`m just curious and I find it strange that there is no explanation in the user´s manual.
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arumako
Posted 2021-12-07 5:30 PM (#556550 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Hi DetlefMichel,
I've been enjoying my VUP-5 that came with my 1680. According to GEWA the presets are as follows;

1. Collector's 2006 with Diaphragm Studio Microphone
2. Collector's 2006 with Dynamic Microphone
3. Adamas I Reissue 1581 with Diaphragm Studio Microphone
4. 1719 Custom Legend with Diaphragm Studio Microphone
5. 1719 Custom Legend with Dynamic Microphone

All the presets sound good to me especially with the fader set at different mix levels between the images and the piezo. Like you, I like position 4 with the fader up about one-third, but you can't beat the pure acoustic sound. Hope this helps!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2021-12-07 7:26 PM (#556555 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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I have a 2080 with a VIP. I leave it on "4".
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2021-12-07 9:03 PM (#556557 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Hi Detlef
Your question reminded me of a search I did when I got my Adamas 1680 with the VIP preamp
There were actually different preamp sets for the different guitars they put them in
If you scroll through this thread Stephent28 describes all the image settings
There were 6 different sets and the 2008 collectors had set 6 I believe
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=33...

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arumako
Posted 2021-12-07 10:57 PM (#556558 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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That's some great information 2wheeldrummer! Thanks for the link. Now I've gotta check which set my VIP-5 has when I get home. It should be set 5 according to the thread, but it's interesting that the dial set at "4" seems to be the unanimous favorite.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2021-12-08 4:52 AM (#556560 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Thank you all for these valuable informations. No wonder that position "4" is the best for the set1, the good old A-braced custom legend is one of the best guitars ever.
So I obviously have set "6" and I prefer the Elite sound...(I would never guessed), not surprising, I must say that I always was inspired by the Elites I had.
And my Adamas WT.
Is ist possible to get access to the integrated VIP software and try different "sets"??? Would be ineresting.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2021-12-08 8:39 PM (#556567 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Detlef I've heard of people buying other VIP preamps with different set numbers to swap out preamps.
You could try writing GEWA,they own the software now I would suppose,and see if they can send you a download
It would be interesting to find out if the software was hardwired as part of a chip or re-writeable



Edited by 2wheeldrummer 2021-12-08 8:41 PM
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2021-12-10 5:15 AM (#556578 - in reply to #556567)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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I wrote to GEWA, I will let you know what happens
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bburg
Posted 2021-12-26 9:11 AM (#556634 - in reply to #556546)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Detlef, I have diferent vip-5's from diferent guitars. and I've tried to swap them for each other. But the one which was designed for it's guitar sounds best. Would be a big blame for Ovation if not so. And I've also swapped them for the OP-Pro and the Studio. With it's original preamp is always the best choice.

Bernie
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FlySig
Posted 2021-12-26 12:55 PM (#556635 - in reply to #556557)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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2wheeldrummer - 2021-12-07 8:03 PM
There were actually different preamp sets for the different guitars they put them in


My understanding is that they mic'd the different guitars for baselines, then applied digital signal processing magic to emulate target models. To get one model to sound like another requires specific algorithms unique to each model.

Thus, for example, a VIP from a 2080 will have different algorithms than from a 1687 to get to the same target.

But I think all that is getting into cork-sniffing a bit, which of course we love to do here, but in the end it may not make a difference in how good a guitar sounds to the audience.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2021-12-30 7:26 AM (#556652 - in reply to #556634)
Subject: Re: VIP 5 "images" question



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Thanks Bernie for the good advice. That sounds reasonable to me and I will stop "cork sniffing" ( besides that you should do that when you try a wine that was shut with a real cork).
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