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"No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer

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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-04 8:46 PM (#556519 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: RE: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Well, Ol' Merle took a dive off the wall hanger, & fractured his tail and split the top, pretty good. Guess I have some options here but will probably fill the crack & refinish the top. Now, fixing the binding may be another challenge! I may have to just rebind everything, as the original binding is really brittle, & likely impossible to accomplish a good match.
Keep y'all posted...............



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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-04 8:53 PM (#556520 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Already glued in 6 small cleats & reattached the top to the bowl. At least, it's flat. Y'know that old epoxy is really brittle.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2021-12-04 11:53 PM (#556522 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer



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Dang.. that's an oucher.. but we do have faith in your doctor skills! I take it there was no carpet beneath the wall hanger.
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-05 7:51 AM (#556525 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Thanks for the encouragement, LOF! Yeah, we installed hardwood flooring 2 years ago. A lot easier to clean, but rather unforgiving to impact. Dumped some cyanocrylate into the fissure last night, so I will determine how much work the refinishing will require. Pretty much decided to rebind the entire top. I really like natural wood bindings, anyway.
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-05 7:53 AM (#556526 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Probably need to buy a better hanger, too. Kinda like closing the gate after the horse has eloped.
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jmoore813
Posted 2021-12-06 6:27 PM (#556536 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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My 68 took the same kind of dive off a wall hanger. Trying to figure out where to go from here…looking forward to your repair and binding (cause that stuff is super brittle lol)
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-06 9:29 PM (#556539 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: RE: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Making some progess. Sanded out the superglued crack & repainted the repair area. Will let it set up a coupla days before sanding & blending. Then, work on the binding scenario.



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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-07 7:00 AM (#556544 - in reply to #556539)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Had some odd lighter-colored areas. May have been residual wax from the original refinish operation. Have removed any traces with lacquer thinner, & will recoat this AM.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2021-12-07 5:10 PM (#556549 - in reply to #555841)
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Progressing nicely. I swear, if I tried that it would come out looking more like a first-grader's finger paint. And just a related side note-- yesterday I smacked a headstock so hard on the overhang of a doorway that it practically shook the house. I could find no damage.. none.. flat out amazed.. so I assume it impacted on ends of the tuning keys and they took one for the team. However, I will consider it to be my last divine freebie, and I am hereby adopting the "football" rule. The football, meaning nickname for the briefcase that holds the nation's nuclear launch codes and is never more than 100 feet from the president. A very secure and protected item. So from this point forward I have trained my Secret Service self to think the word "football" whenever moving about with a guitar (yeah, right.. we'll see how long that lasts).


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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-07 5:39 PM (#556551 - in reply to #555841)
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Just treat it like you are the doting regal grandparent. Just don't let the other grandkids see the favoritism, or you will have a palace revolution.
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-15 6:42 AM (#556598 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: RE: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Just could not get a good match & blend on the top, so reshot the whole bloody thing. Structurally sound & being reassembled. Pictures to follow, but should appear identical to pre-injury, albeit a bit brighter in hue.



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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-15 6:46 AM (#556599 - in reply to #555841)
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Oh yeah, and invested in some better guitar hangers, too!
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-15 10:08 AM (#556600 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: RE: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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All better. Not a perfect repair, but close enough for me. Still sounds superb. I love onboard tuners, too!



(Merle 5 refinished 1- small.jpg)



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BCam
Posted 2021-12-15 10:48 AM (#556601 - in reply to #555841)
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Nice work!
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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-15 11:34 AM (#556602 - in reply to #556601)
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Thanks! Now, I just need more discipline & perceived progress. And spend less time watching instructional videos that remind me I came late to the party.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2021-12-15 8:12 PM (#556603 - in reply to #555841)
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Excellent!! Lucky you to have such talent in your own hands. And I am also glad to see it is now on a floor stand. As long as the creek don't rise you should be okay.
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arumako
Posted 2021-12-16 5:51 PM (#556604 - in reply to #555841)
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Nice work as usual seesquare! Not everybody would go the extra mile with the finish coat, but these vintage USA Os are really worth the effort! Congratulations!

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seesquare
Posted 2021-12-16 10:59 PM (#556605 - in reply to #556604)
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Thanks, Ken!
I appreciate the recognition and encouragement. Speaking of vintage O’s, our dog sitter has an absolutely flawless 1111-4 with a high 4-digit serial number. Drooled to the point of dehydration. Hard shell case is equally pristine. She bought it new about 1972, reportedly. And, playing it frequently. Fine stewardship, to be sure.
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seesquare
Posted 2022-03-05 9:13 AM (#557123 - in reply to #555841)
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Thought I would update the file. I used some micro mesh foam pads, starting with 2400, working up to 12000, to cut & level the finish. Burned through the finish in a couple of spots, but it was a successful outcome in leveling the finish. Now, a little rubbing compound and plexiglass cleaner, and it should have a mirror finish!



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Love O Fair
Posted 2022-03-06 9:03 AM (#557131 - in reply to #555841)
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It does appear to be smoother and brighter in the bottom photo's light reflection. Maybe when you get it finished you can take an outdoor photo with the trees in the reflection like you did with others and the gloss will be better demonstrated across the entire top.
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seesquare
Posted 2022-03-07 11:19 AM (#557140 - in reply to #555841)
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So, I used some light-to-medium Turtle Wax polishing compound, followed by Nu Finish polish, and took a couple of photos, per LOF's suggestion of replicating the bare trees image. As Rod Serling would say, "submitted for your approval........"
I will work on getting a better reflective image. The GCDB shiny bowl afforded a different image, entirely. Kinda like a fisheye lens on my DSLR.

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seesquare
Posted 2022-03-07 12:09 PM (#557141 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: RE: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Dunno if this is much of an improvement, but it seems the present finish is about as good as I am able to accomplish, at this point. Guess I will string it up & play it!

Edited by seesquare 2022-03-07 12:11 PM




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DanSavage
Posted 2022-03-07 2:16 PM (#557142 - in reply to #557141)
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That looks great!

Nice job.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2022-03-07 4:16 PM (#557144 - in reply to #555841)
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Oh, my. Fantastic!! Now, aren't you glad it fell of its hanger?
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seesquare
Posted 2022-03-07 8:33 PM (#557146 - in reply to #555841)
Subject: Re: "No good deed goes unpunished"- Refurbishment of 1111-6 Balladeer


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Yea, well , as much as I like lemonade, I really didn’t need the second batch of fruit! I did learn a lot about fine finishing and polishing protocol. Got another couple of weeks before level and polish on the GCDB shiny bowl. I will take a run at leveling the top also, though that finish is pretty thin (Truoil), and quite a few filled cracks that need a careful approach.
So, stay tuned. Probably next entry on the Pandora II at end of the month.
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