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yentna
Posted 2021-01-27 1:24 PM (#554887)
Subject: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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Hi all; my dad passed away a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to identify his Adamas II. I THINK it's a 1685-7, anniversary brown, but the serial is throwing me off. Everything is so faded; it could be serial #1871 but that's back in 1981 before the 1685s were made, so perhaps it's 4871? But that's 1989 and I think the double knobs on the electronics were down to one and a panel by then, (at least by 1991 they were). Could the model be different? 

More photos in the comments. 

Please help; any insights would be wonderful!

For your viewing pleasure, my dad's tribute to John Prine this spring (on FB): https://fb.watch/3htweezV5R/



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yentna
Posted 2021-01-27 1:26 PM (#554888 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: RE: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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FlySig
Posted 2021-01-27 3:00 PM (#554889 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video



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Hey, Yentna, I enjoyed that video of your dad. I'm sorry for your loss.

Someone more knowledgeable will be along soon to give expert opinions on the year of his guitar.

We live nearby, also in PC. Enjoying the snow today! We were supposed to see John Prine at the Egyptian last year but he cancelled that show due to illness. I am in withdrawal from seeing live music and from playing music with others due to all this Covid mess.
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Standingovation
Posted 2021-01-27 5:31 PM (#554891 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video



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1685-9. Probably around 1981-82 before they shifted to the OP-24.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2021-01-27 7:50 PM (#554896 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video



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The serial number is hard to read... But I am calling it "1911" (or 1811 or 1711)
Anyway, that would put the date at 1980 or 1981 or so.... This might be helpful.
http://www.ovationtribute.com/Date%20your%20Ovation.html

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elginacres
Posted 2021-01-27 7:58 PM (#554898 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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My two cents are a 1685 - 9, 1811, 1981.
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elginacres
Posted 2021-01-27 7:58 PM (#554899 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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Uncle Beal - thoughts?
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2021-01-27 8:00 PM (#554900 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video



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I'd say its a 1685-9 ,on Adamas models the color codes are different so that would be the dark brown,serial number maybe 1879?? so 1981 is my guess,the Adamas II guitars are in the 1982 catalog so they could have been made at the end of 1981,you can scroll through here for model numbers and color codes
http://ovationtribute.com/Catalogues/Adamas%20catalog%201982/Adamas...



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elginacres
Posted 2021-01-27 8:06 PM (#554902 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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Yentna-as many of us here can tell you, the model numbers, color suffixes and serial numbers sometimes do not totally line up, and those earlier Adamas labels, were all hand done, had some not so sticky glue, sometimes dodgy signatures :-), and subject to were subject to the occasional error. Unless Uncle Beal says otherwise, an early 1980s brown adamas 12 string will do.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2021-01-27 8:32 PM (#554904 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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1685-9, 1982. The first Adamas II I ever saw was played by Glen Campbell on his Music Show in the fall of 1982 (he played that 12 string until he stopped playing 12's -- 20 years at least). The first Adamas literature was from 1982. I don't think you'll get closer than that.
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yentna
Posted 2021-01-28 10:18 AM (#554914 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: RE: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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You all are amazing! Thank you! That all definitely lines up better than trying to force it into the later 1980s.

Going with 1685-9, serial 1879, somewhere in 1981-1982, as my head cannon.

He said it would go to me when he passed, but it's in Alaska at the family property with a few of my siblings nearby that are learning while I'm out of state. So, for now, we've decided to let it live in its historic place on the wall so everyone visiting can enjoy playing it.

That means I'm on the hunt to have one with me in the meantime. So if you see any 1685s out there please let me know. It doesn't need to match color/year/etc. Or any good older 1688s those would likely also work as, per lessons in this forum (thank you all!), the differences are minor and I just want a good Adamas 12 deep-bowl in my life.

Thanks again!





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yentna
Posted 2021-01-28 10:39 AM (#554915 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: RE: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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PS. For your listening pleasure should you have interest, three of his faves and a YouTube link to show how his voice changed over time, though his fingers had slowed a bit and his voice softened in recent years:

April 2020 - Here Comes the Sun, Fishing in the Dark, and Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

1970 - Strong as a Mountain

Have a wonderful day everyone. 

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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2021-01-28 7:08 PM (#554933 - in reply to #554904)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video



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moody, p.i. - 2021-01-27 8:32 PM

1685-9, 1982. The first Adamas II I ever saw was played by Glen Campbell on his Music Show in the fall of 1982 (he played that 12 string until he stopped playing 12's -- 20 years at least). The first Adamas literature was from 1982. I don't think you'll get closer than that.


I heard/read that Glen got a pair of red Adamas guitars from Ovation in 1982 one 6 string and one 12 string do you recall if the guitar he was playing was the 2-red and do you have footage or know where I might see the video,I'm a big Glen Campbell and Adamas 12 string fan

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elginacres
Posted 2021-01-29 4:01 PM (#554945 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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Carl Jackson or Wayne Reid may know if Moody doesn't - but my money on the incarnation of Jim Rockford.
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elginacres
Posted 2021-01-29 4:02 PM (#554946 - in reply to #554887)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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Kudos Yentna: You do not hear Jimmy Ibbottson's NGDB stuff much anymore.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2021-01-29 7:10 PM (#554952 - in reply to #554933)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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2wheeldrummer - 2021-01-28 5:08 PM

I heard/read that Glen got a pair of red Adamas guitars from Ovation in 1982 one 6 string and one 12 string do you recall if the guitar he was playing was the 2-red and do you have footage or know where I might see the video,I'm a big Glen Campbell and Adamas 12 string fan


In 1982 Glen was given 2 Adamii by Ovation, both are some of the very first super shallow bowl guitars built by Ovation. They were both blue. One was a steel string and the other a nylon string in a country artist configuration. He did not play the steel string very long, getting his 1537 prototype and playing it and another 1537 proto for the next 6 years. The Adamas Country Artist was played by Glen for 3-4 years. Last I heard, the steel string was in Nova Scotia and they nylon string here in SoCal (not with me).

Glen's rythym guitar player, Craig Fell, played red Adamii on Glen's music show. That might be what you're thinking of......
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yentna
Posted 2021-01-30 12:16 PM (#554959 - in reply to #554946)
Subject: Re: Help me identify my Dad's guitar - with video


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elginacres - 2021-01-29 3:02 PM

Kudos Yentna: You do not hear Jimmy Ibbottson's NGDB stuff much anymore.


Thanks much! He has a lot of oldies-but-goodies while he made several tribute and motivational videos during COVID via the Yentna Station page, I’ve also been recording him for years to help learn (I can now play about 1/200th as well as he...but at least have a good time at it) and plan on putting up a YouTube channel at some point. Glad to see it resonated.
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