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BCam
Posted 2020-04-08 3:35 PM (#551822)
Subject: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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Acoustic Guitar Magazine is auctioning off a 2000 Adamas CVT along with other guitars from their collection:

https://acousticguitar.com/hear-and-bid-on-our-ovation-adamas-cvt/?u...

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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2020-04-08 5:45 PM (#551824 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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Here is a little snippet from there article

The estimated value range for the Ovation Adamas CVT is $400 to $600. What makes it special? A smooth top made of two woven layers of carbon fiber sandwiched around an ultra-thin poplar core.

For $400-600 I'd like to have it..who does the valuation on these guitars???


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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2020-04-08 6:21 PM (#551825 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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Well, forget the auction...
I will give you $400 for it, save you all of that trouble.
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standing
Posted 2020-04-08 10:09 PM (#551826 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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What was that we were discussing in another thread about lower prices implying lower quality?
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Standingovation
Posted 2020-04-08 11:11 PM (#551827 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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Exactly. At $400 it's priced like a piece if junk. So the majority of deep pocketed wooden guitar fans will just assume that's exactly what it is.

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cholloway
Posted 2020-04-09 10:37 AM (#551832 - in reply to #551827)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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Standingovation - 2020-04-08 11:11 PM

Exactly. At $400 it's priced like a piece if junk. So the majority of deep pocketed wooden guitar fans will just assume that's exactly what it is.


Then their speakers suck or, they have a tin ear.
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BCam
Posted 2020-04-09 10:51 AM (#551833 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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I bet it goes for more than the estimated value.

I'm kicking myself for telling you all about it. Now you're all going to be bidding against me!

Edited by BCam 2020-04-09 10:55 AM
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Love O Fair
Posted 2020-04-09 7:56 PM (#551834 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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@2WD - >>>who does the valuation on these guitars???<<<

A guy named Eric Schoenberg, from Tiburon, CA (SF bay area). He has done the price point estimates on all of the guitars in the auction, which average around $6,000 across the collection, with the Santa Cruz PJ coming in the highest at $11,500, and the Adamas the lowest at $500. Begging almost as he is trying to make some kind of punk, derogatory statement (like some ilk do).. especially considering that the $5,000 guitars posted there are definitely not, regardless of his crazy opinionated estimation, 10x the value of the Adamas. Clearly insulting. Maybe we should send a few of the west side boys over to have a sit-down with ol' Eric.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2020-04-09 10:08 PM (#551835 - in reply to #551833)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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BCam - 2020-04-09 10:51 AM

I bet it goes for more than the estimated value.

I'm kicking myself for telling you all about it. Now you're all going to be bidding against me!


I would say it should go for at least a $1000 if not 1500.
There is also a Rainsong carbon fiber guitar on there valued at $2500 how do they get the big disparity in values????

BCam do you have an Adamas??? at the right price I would bid on it but since I already have a few Adamii if you want it I'll bow out just post pics if you win it

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Standingovation
Posted 2020-04-09 11:31 PM (#551836 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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A wise man once said "The only opinions of price or value that matter in a sale are those belonging to the buyer and the seller."
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BCam
Posted 2020-04-10 10:49 AM (#551837 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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I don't have an Adamas. I signed up for the auction notifications but haven't decided what I want to do yet.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2020-04-10 10:27 PM (#551838 - in reply to #551837)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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BCam - 2020-04-10 10:49 AM

I don't have an Adamas. I signed up for the auction notifications but haven't decided what I want to do yet.


If you wanted to add an Adamas to your collection this could be a good one if the price stays low,$800 or less would be a great deal most go for well over a $1000 and the couple W597's I've seen online are $1700 and up.I believe this is a mid bowl with the cross weave carbon fiber top and good electronics.

I'm watching the auction to mostly for curiousities sake and they have a Guild JF65 12 string that's real cool.
I have an Adamas 1187-247 that outshines every other 6 string so I don't need another






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alpep
Posted 2020-04-11 10:24 AM (#551842 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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cvt is totally different guitar than the standard adamas
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2020-04-11 10:54 AM (#551843 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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I agree with Al.
CVT has a much different sound (to my ear) than the original textured top with suspension ring.
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BCam
Posted 2020-04-12 11:20 AM (#551848 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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Can one of you enlighten me as to the differences between the CVT and the standard Adamas?
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Standingovation
Posted 2020-04-12 2:46 PM (#551851 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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I don't know all the technical jargon but I think ...

o CVT and OA (original adamas) have different thickness tops, different birch thickness and (perhaps) different birch alignment
o CVT has a glossy smooth finish applied to the CF where-as OA is just painted CF
o CVT and OA have different types of attachment of the top to the bowl

I've only owned one CVT for a very short period of time. It was a nice guitar but certainly not deserving of the name Adamas.
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BCam
Posted 2020-04-20 6:01 PM (#551901 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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The auction started today and, with 20 days left, the price is already up to $850, with 21 bids in so far:

https://store.acousticguitar.com/collections/30th-anniversary-guitar...

I didn't check them all but the others, which have much higher estimates, have current bids much lower than their estimates.

Suffice it to say, I'm not bidding.



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kentrookie
Posted 2020-05-11 8:27 AM (#552088 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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Auction Ended At: USD 2250.00
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clrules
Posted 2020-05-11 8:36 PM (#552096 - in reply to #552088)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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kentrookie - 2020-05-11 8:27 AM Auction Ended At: USD 2250.00

take that, wood guitar snobbie, Eric Schoenberg!!! 

After listening to all the guitars (I guess using a plectrum must be sacrilege) the Adamas sounds way better than the Taylor.

 



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Love O Fair
Posted 2020-05-12 4:10 AM (#552101 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction



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@clrues - >>>take that, wood guitar snobbie, Eric Schoenberg!!!<<<

+1
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BCam
Posted 2020-05-13 12:09 PM (#552117 - in reply to #551822)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Magazine - Adamas CVT Auction


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The final sale price of the Adamas was $2,250 vs. their estimated value of $500.
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