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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Thanks, Jay. I've read that the top's stiffness comes from the light grain, not the dark. Using that theory, the wider the grain, the stiffer the top. Some luthiers actually measure stiffness by suspending the bare wood top between two supports and adding weights to the middle and then measure the deflection. Those who do this record the deflection. Then, once the guitar is finished they have a yardstick by which they can judge future top wood will sound once finished. I just tap the wood and listen to the resonance. So far, so good. jay - 2019-11-03 6:40 AM Dan...can you tell if the grain makes a significant difference acoustically compared to...say...485? I have read...it makes a difference, it doesn't make a difference, it is the sum of the parts...etc etc etc. Your top is visually stunning in its definition of its grain. Again, congrats. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Here's the back shots. | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | Sweet..More guitar porn..But then I think we all like a nice round bottom !!!! | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | 2wheeldrummer - 2019-11-03 9:51 AM Sweet..More guitar porn..But then I think we all like a nice round bottom !!!! | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802 Location: When?? | @Dan - >>> It's not every day you see a dog driving a car<<< And, collecting cab fares to earn his own booty. Enterprising little mutt, I'll give him that. Wait.. did I say "booty"? Oh.. PS.. nice bowl on the guitar, too :-) Edited by Love O Fair 2019-11-03 4:55 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Love O Fair - 2019-11-03 2:38 PM Oh.. PS.. nice bowl on the guitar, too :-) Thanks! It's not done using the same technique as the factory uses, but it is a reasonable facsimile. | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1802 Location: When?? | @Dan - >>>It's not done using the same technique as the factory uses, but it is a reasonable facsimile.<<< I like it. It definitely has its own character, and appears maybe a bit more slick to the pant leg than factory, and not quite as uniform in texture inch-to-inch across the surface, though I am in the dark as to exactly how you arrived at that texture/finish and materials used. | ||
keldon85 |
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Joined: July 2019 Posts: 106 Location: northern Georgia | A beautiful instrument, with painstaking details in construction and appearance. Now, how does it sound in comparison to the factory instruments with that type of bowl? | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | keldon85 - 2019-11-04 8:17 AM A beautiful instrument, with painstaking details in construction and appearance. Now, how does it sound in comparison to the factory instruments with that type of bowl? Thanks. There's no comparison between a normal guitar and one with a torrefied top, like this one. It sounds like an Ovation guitar, but like it's on steroids. It has deep, rich bass with lots of sustain, ringing mid-tones and sparkling highs. When you dig in during strumming, it just gets louder without losing any clarity. I'll shoot some video today and post it to youtube. Edited by DanSavage 2019-11-04 11:18 AM | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | marenostrum - 2019-11-02 2:33 AM Dan......beautiful guitar !! ...... stunning artwork ........ I want one +1 An Ovation on steroids that looks this beautiful your going to have people lining up for you to build one for them!!! The more I look at the pictures the greater my appreciation for the skilled artistry behind the build. Congrats on a magnificent instrument may she bring you joy for years to come. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Thanks, Kevin. | ||
Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1555 Location: Indiana | "There's no comparison between a normal guitar and one with a torrefied top, like this one. It sounds like an Ovation guitar, but like it's on steroids." Gotta agree with Dan on this. Aptly describes the difference between the parlor I sent him... and the one he sent back. The difference is more than striking. Edited by Jonmark Stone 2019-11-04 5:03 PM | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | Yup.... About 10 years ago Ovation built a very limited edition Legend with a torrefied Addy spruce top. Wonder what it sounded like? Anybody buy one of those? | ||
DetlefMichel |
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 755 Location: Muenster/Germany | DanSavage - 2019-11-02 9:58 PM There's a free OCP-1K saddle for the first one to point out the obvious mistake seen in this photo. An actual mistake I made in both planning and execution. It might help to view the actual image instead of the reduced size shown in this web page. So with that mistake you can only throw it away. I will gladly take it . | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | moody, p.i. - 2019-11-04 4:16 PM Yup.... About 10 years ago Ovation built a very limited edition Legend with a torrefied Addy spruce top. Wonder what it sounded like? Anybody buy one of those? There was the 2011 1617ALE-1, but it wasn't torrefied. Just a normal Adi top. I haven't played one, nor even held one in my hands. I'd be curious to check one out. | ||
DarenSavage |
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Joined: December 2016 Posts: 128 | I'm in Cali for the holidays. I got to play the Black Pearl last night. What a sweet playing and sounding guitar. Bravisimo! | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | DanSavage - 2019-11-05 8:16 PM moody, p.i. - 2019-11-04 4:16 PM Yup.... About 10 years ago Ovation built a very limited edition Legend with a torrefied Addy spruce top. Wonder what it sounded like? Anybody buy one of those? There was the 2011 1617ALE-1, but it wasn't torrefied. Just a normal Adi top. I haven't played one, nor even held one in my hands. I'd be curious to check one out. Come up to Boise and play mine. It needs it. I could also use your help with a bump at the 14th fret, which is my excuse for the lack of playing time. The 2011 and the 2010 are both great guitars. The 2010 hangs next to my 1537, since it bears some similarities. The 2011 hangs next to it and the 2004 Commemorative CL, maybe the best of the Legends. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | I played the Black Pearl tonight. A rather remarkable guitar! First, it's a striking guitar to look at and hold. The inlays are like a custom legend but a bit beyond and they are beautiful. The top is a torrified addy piece of wood. Wide grain (as addy tops tend to be) but it adds to the striking look. All that Dan has done has made a beautiful guitar. He believes that it is his piece de resistance and I tend to agree with him. Sound wise, it's the deepest most resonant wood topped Ovation I've ever played. Even more than my Dan Savage Legend. Dan attributes that to the heavy ebony CL bridge. Could be. Mine has a rosewood 5 pointer. Whatever, it's really something to play and hear. Very dreadnaught-ish. And this is with the extra light strings that he loves! I wonder what it would sound like with lights or mediums (I would go with mediums and then take it to a bluegrass jam - the Martin players' heads would explode!). All in all, very very impressive..... | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Pueblo West, CO | Thanks, Paul. It was good to see you again. It's funny. When Daren and I were playing together over the holidays (him on the Black Parlor and me on the Black Pearl) we noticed that when I would play the Parlor fingerstyle, it was noticeably louder than the Pearl. But, when we played rhythm with picks, the Pearl was louder. We attributed this to the different woods. The Parlor uses torrefied Englemann and the Pearl, torrefied Adi. Since Englemann isn't as stiff as Adi, this makes perfect sense. Mostly, what we noticed was how good the two guitars sounded when played together. They really compliment each other. | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | DanSavage - 2020-01-24 12:38 PM Mostly, what we noticed was how good the two guitars sounded when played together. They really compliment each other. Great to hear a review of what we all knew would be a spectacular guitar!!!! So are we still going to get the long awaited sound clips so we can drool on our computer screens to angelic voice of the "Black Pearl" | ||
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