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Mario
Posted 2019-08-06 11:10 PM (#549556)
Subject: For the luthiers out there


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When you removed a lifted bridge and a little of the wood comes up with it, how do you fill the void? Wood, sawdust, extra glue, ......?
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FlySig
Posted 2019-08-07 8:41 AM (#549557 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there



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If the wood is still attached to the bridge I would leave it alone. Glue it down the way it is. I would not choose to leave a void beneath the bridge.
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BCam
Posted 2019-08-07 10:27 AM (#549559 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there


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And, if you're replacing it with a new bridge?
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seesquare
Posted 2019-08-08 12:17 PM (#549561 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there


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Chip off the remains on the old bridge, to use as the filler. Maybe, with a dash of superglue.
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MWoody
Posted 2019-08-08 12:50 PM (#549562 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there



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Not a Luthier (Luthiers went to school) but I would echo what has been said. The bottom line is that you want to glue a flat surface to a flat surface free of voids or loose material.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2019-08-08 2:33 PM (#549563 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there



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Why am I thinking of JB Weld right now? No, seriously, if you are re-attaching the same bridge, try as best you can to go with FlySig's suggestion. Just put it back with an adhesive that will bond well. If you are going for a new bridge, consider a filler that starts out as liquid, one that is thick and can be leveled and/or sanded smooth when dry and hardens to grip the top.
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nerdydave
Posted 2019-08-08 10:13 PM (#549565 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there


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Yes! What Al said! MWoody knows a lot too! And I hope I die without having to deal with this particular issue!!
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Love O Fair
Posted 2019-08-09 12:36 PM (#549566 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there



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@nerdydave - >>>And I hope I die without having to deal with this particular issue!!<<<

Well, technically, that is kinda like a death wish since you have't yet dealt with it.. and a bridge cam pop and lift at any given moment. So let's just say that we hope you don't die period since we need you here!
(heck, with reasoning like that I shoulda been a lawyer).
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nerdydave
Posted 2019-08-09 11:33 PM (#549569 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there


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@ Love O Fair - >>> And a bridge can pop and lift at any given moment. <<<

Ever since I read this I can do nothing but sit and watch all my bridges!! So far so good! Gonna be a long night!
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Mario
Posted 2019-08-12 7:06 PM (#549579 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: RE: For the luthiers out there


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Great thanks for all the input. I adopted a couple of cases, so I'm giving it a shot
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-08-13 10:34 AM (#549580 - in reply to #549579)
Subject: Re: For the luthiers out there



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To easily remove all the wood fibers from the underside of the bridge, use a heat gun. (or a blow dryer on high)

The heat will soften the epoxy holding the wood fibers to the bridge and allow you to easily separate the two using a sharp chisel. Better yet, use an Xacto chisel.

You can then follow everyone's advice and glue the wood fibers back into place onto the top.

If the wood fibers don't want to go back into place, I would just let the epoxy fill the voids.
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arumako
Posted 2019-08-14 9:13 PM (#549590 - in reply to #549579)
Subject: RE: For the luthiers out there



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Mario - 2019-08-12 9:06 AM

Great thanks for all the input. I adopted a couple of cases, so I'm giving it a shot

If you get the opportunity, please take pics of your repair journey and post it in the BFLG. I got my start with a bridge failure kinda like yours on a 1117-4 back in 2014. As I posted my journey in the BFLG, so many of the kind OFC folks provided great advice and helped me restore the guitar to vintage playable condition. It's still in my collection and seeing a lot of action on a regular basis.

You've already received great advice from many of the BFLG heavy hitters, so you're in the right place!

Good luck, Mario!

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