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alpep
Posted 2019-05-16 5:42 PM (#548958)
Subject: Just when you lose your religion


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Sometimes you think all is lost... and it is... then you get a glimmer of hope and think wow this may turn around after all.....
Today I found out Rick hall is now a consultant to dw with ovation guitars
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elginacres
Posted 2019-05-16 6:46 PM (#548960 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Just looked how to add an emoji of a thumbs up....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2019-05-17 12:24 AM (#548961 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Cool news....
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-05-17 10:32 AM (#548963 - in reply to #548961)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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cholloway
Posted 2019-05-17 10:48 AM (#548964 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Take your pick...

https://tenor.com/search/snoopy-happy-dance-gifs

Edited by cholloway 2019-05-17 10:50 AM
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dmkozak
Posted 2019-05-17 1:58 PM (#548965 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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To me, this says that DW is serious about Ovations. (I wasn't so sure before reading this.)
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-05-17 7:31 PM (#548968 - in reply to #548965)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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My 2 cents... DW has shown signs of being serious about Ovation from the beginning. It was a bold move trying to hang on to the mothership. Off shore quality is as good as it's ever been, IMO.

Not sure DW knew what was next regarding Ovation after xraiderman.

Having someone like Rick consulting gives context, history and direction. Very exciting news to me.

 

 

 



Edited by Jonmark Stone 2019-05-17 7:34 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2019-05-17 8:46 PM (#548970 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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ProfessorBB
Posted 2019-05-18 10:02 AM (#548972 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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A good guy for sure.
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MWoody
Posted 2019-05-18 12:01 PM (#548973 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Sign me up for the factory tour... whichever state its in!
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standing
Posted 2019-05-18 12:36 PM (#548974 - in reply to #548973)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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MWoody - 2019-05-18 12:01 PM

Sign me up for the factory tour... whichever state its in!

+1
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Waskel
Posted 2019-05-18 1:31 PM (#548975 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Just don't let him drive the van....
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jay
Posted 2019-05-18 9:07 PM (#548979 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Woody, wouldn't you mean country?
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elginacres
Posted 2019-05-19 4:41 PM (#548981 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Van rides in New Hartford with Rick are an adventure
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Waskel
Posted 2019-05-20 9:14 AM (#548985 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Especially when he's talking to (and looking at) the people in the way back.
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alpep
Posted 2019-05-20 9:30 AM (#548986 - in reply to #548968)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Jonmark Stone - 2019-05-17 7:31 PM

My 2 cents... DW has shown signs of being serious about Ovation from the beginning. It was a bold move trying to hang on to the mothership. Off shore quality is as good as it's ever been, IMO.

Not sure DW knew what was next regarding Ovation after xraiderman.

Having someone like Rick consulting gives context, history and direction. Very exciting news to me.

 

 

 



how many imports have you had experience with?

don't confuse beauty with the beast
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cholloway
Posted 2019-05-20 10:35 AM (#548987 - in reply to #548968)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Jonmark Stone - 2019-05-17 7:31 PM

My 2 cents... Off shore quality is as good as it's ever been, IMO.


This can be taken in one of two ways.

Edited by cholloway 2019-05-20 10:36 AM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2019-05-21 7:15 PM (#548995 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Offshore guitars are okay... But!

Long time ago I bought a 1778TX because I could not find a 1778T.
The Korean TX was pretty good.
But when I compared it to a USA 1778T, I promptly sold the TX.

I could continue with... I have a CSE44 Korean Celebrity.
It is a Great guitar, BUT...
When compared to a USA-made 6778LX (or any USO) the offshore guitar is found lacking.

I am sure that an Asian Ovation could be as good as an USA Ovation.
But the whole point of manufacturing in Asia is the make guitars cheaper.

I currently have a White 1778TX-6 made in Korea by DW since the takeover....
It is okay but.... It is NOT a "real" Ovation, it does not compare to my USA T's.

[disclaimer] I do own a Journey (china) and a BC Rich (china) and Traveler guitars (china).
I also own Seagull guitars that were made in Canada, but that is a whole 'nuther thing.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-05-22 8:43 AM (#548999 - in reply to #548986)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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alpep - 2019-05-20 9:30 AM

how many imports have you had experience with? don't confuse beauty with the beast

Well... I've played several of the DW offshores now. Own a DW mandolin. It's  my opinion they are a cut above celeb's of the past.

Coming up on 50 years as an O player... granted, still a novice.

As I said above, my 2 cents.

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nerdydave
Posted 2019-05-31 10:32 PM (#549095 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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Yes you are. Keep at it though and in perhaps another half century you will no longer be so!!
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2019-06-01 2:38 AM (#549096 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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I hate to be the negative Nancy here, but for me it's nothing to get excited about that the Asian contractors have finally figured out how to churn out a half-decent mass-produced Ovation given how much time they've had to learn to do so.

Rick Hall or not, I don't see Ovation ever coming back or rejuvenating its American roots reinventing itself in the process given how often they've tried already.
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MWoody
Posted 2019-06-01 1:57 PM (#549098 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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Let's make a deal... If the USA made Adamas returns and we get to do a factory tour can we delete the "Insomniac Pop Quiz"?


Please?
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alpep
Posted 2019-06-01 2:00 PM (#549099 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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The asian guitars can be so much better......
honestly they play well, they look great but they are seriously lacking in tone and structure.

IMHO the best imports were the ones that Fender never had made because they decided to sell the company and cut ties with Ovation. The guitars from that namm show were really nice. and sounded pretty good.

my experience of 25 years as a dealer.....well... I guess it's not worth anything....like my opinion.

no I am not being negative for the sake of being negative I KNOW what kind of quality can be produced in Asia IF YOU PAY FOR IT!!!!!
sure it is still cheaper than USA but not at the price point we are all used to seeing imports at.
In fact... if you have noticed over the past few years imports are rising in price where I have a near mint USA elite T selling for UNDER what a new tx sells for.....

caveat emptor
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standing
Posted 2019-06-01 11:27 PM (#549102 - in reply to #549098)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion



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MWoody - 2019-06-01 1:57 PM

Let's make a deal... If the USA made Adamas returns and we get to do a factory tour can we delete the "Insomniac Pop Quiz"?


Please?




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elginacres
Posted 2019-06-02 10:18 AM (#549103 - in reply to #548958)
Subject: Re: Just when you lose your religion


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I am guessing Andrea has no idea of her lasting influence...Good trivia - what is the most mentioned song in the insomniac pop quiz?
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