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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2019-01-24 7:53 PM (#546729)
Subject: Live-ish from NAMM


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Al has played it.  He sais it sounds ok.  I'm sure he'll weigh in later.

 





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alpep
Posted 2019-01-24 8:02 PM (#546731 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Played the guitar
It sounds good but it has a wood guitar sound not an ovation sound

The neck feels good but it is not a bolt on ovation neck just a standard dove tail joined neck

Fit and finish is good
Schaller tuners
Ovation bridge
Probably fishman electronics
Matte finish
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cholloway
Posted 2019-01-26 8:15 AM (#546771 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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I'll bet the sound doesn't "project" like a round body does.

Edited by cholloway 2019-01-26 8:17 AM
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alpep
Posted 2019-01-26 10:42 AM (#546774 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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It is not a royndback
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-01-26 5:01 PM (#546776 - in reply to #546731)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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alpep - 2019-01-24 6:02 PM

The neck feels good but it is not a bolt on ovation neck just a standard dove tail joined neck


Ugh! Probably glued with epoxy, too, thus rendering it completely un-serviceable in the future.
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Mike S.
Posted 2019-01-26 6:50 PM (#546777 - in reply to #546776)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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Hello, Everyone,
My first thought on seeing this thing? was that of GRU'S MOM, after she saw him trying to impress her with his evil genius, but failing rather miserably in, "Dispicable Me I",..."Meh." And so, to, in the imortal words of fellow Canadian, Shania Twain, I also say, "THAT DONT IMPRESS ME MUCH!"

Mike S.,

Ottawa, ON.,

CANADA


Edited by Mike S. 2019-01-26 6:51 PM
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2019-01-26 7:23 PM (#546780 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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You know, it's an attractive guitar. But it's not an Ovation. If I want a wood box, I'll look elsewhere.....
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Cripple Rick
Posted 2019-01-26 8:29 PM (#546781 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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It's just not the same (in more ways than one). Instead of trying new ideas, they should rely on what they know worked in the past. Then put a real Ovation in the hands of musicians that influence the guitar-buying public.
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BCam
Posted 2019-01-27 10:24 AM (#546794 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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It's interesting that this video is billed as a demo but only has a few seconds of playing at the end.

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/28527-namm-19---ovation-calif...
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alpep
Posted 2019-01-27 10:56 AM (#546795 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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It is hardly a demo or very informative
But you do get to hear the guitar
I played it and held it in my hands
It is a well constructed instrument that sounds good

It’s nit for everyone
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d'ovation
Posted 2019-01-27 11:12 AM (#546797 - in reply to #546794)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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BCam - 2019-01-27 10:24 AM It's interesting that this video is billed as a demo but only has a few seconds of playing at the end. https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/28527-namm-19---ovation-calif...

I always thought that this Darren guy was part of the New Hartford crew but maybe I'm getting people mixed up as I never had a chance to go to NH and meet them in person. 



Edited by d'ovation 2019-01-27 11:16 AM
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alpep
Posted 2019-01-27 10:40 PM (#546806 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Darren is head engineer
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Love O Fair
Posted 2019-01-27 11:02 PM (#546807 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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First, the video confirmed what Dan said above.. this model is essentially un-serviceable. Secondly, you have to.. what.. cram your finger into the largest of the sound holes to adjust the volume? Serious? And the "demo" video had a whole 4 seconds of it actually being played. Gee. Oh well, at least Al was here to report that it has solid construction and sounded okay when he picked it up, but it was like the company itself didn't want us to see it up close or hear much. Sadly, what I was hoping to be some kind of sparkling, revolutionary step into the future for Ovation and DW was described as something more like a rush job to have something.. anything.. to show at NAMM. At this juncture I would much rather buy three $1,000 guitars than this single one for $3,000.

Edited by Love O Fair 2019-01-27 11:06 PM
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d'ovation
Posted 2019-01-28 3:37 PM (#546815 - in reply to #546806)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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alpep - 2019-01-27 10:40 PM Darren is head engineer

Darren Wallace who held the fort at NH after Fender left? So did he move to California then?

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Beal
Posted 2019-01-28 4:53 PM (#546816 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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It is just so wrong on so many levels. I'd rather play a Taylor. And I'd rather have my fingers cut off than do that. There, I said what you all are thinking

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2019-01-28 5:48 PM (#546818 - in reply to #546816)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Beal - 2019-01-28 2:53 PM

It is just so wrong on so many levels. I'd rather play a Taylor. And I'd rather have my fingers cut off than do that. There, I said what you all are thinking

Well, yeah....
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alpep
Posted 2019-01-28 7:26 PM (#546819 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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No Darren did not move to California

Dw had another company build these guitars

But the are only like ovations with the bridge and the shape of the headstock

The body shape and cutaway do not resemble ovation guitars that we know

The guitar is not horrible
It plays well and sounds good


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standing
Posted 2019-01-29 10:06 AM (#546827 - in reply to #546819)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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alpep - 2019-01-28 7:26 PM

But the are only like ovations with the bridge and the shape of the headstock


… and the sound hole sizes, positions and patterns.

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dmkozak
Posted 2019-01-29 3:33 PM (#546832 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Any "roundback" news? Any additions or deletions to what's already on the website as being foreign made? I'm assuming that once the existing U.S. made roundbacks are gone, that'll be it for U.S. roundbacks. Did that come up in NAMM? Is the future foreign made roundbacks or US made wood boxes?
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2019-01-29 4:02 PM (#546833 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM



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The back and sides are solid Romanian flame maple (expensive!) with a solid spruce top. The bracing is a modified X bracing. LR Baggs inside as pickup (oh, the irony), even though I'm not a fan of the battery pack in the back, but since there's no traditional sound hole they had to do it that way. I miss the traditional skunk stripe neck on this one. I like the single-ply wood binding on the top and back and the Adamas/Elite-like fretboard inlay. The guitar looks stylish but still Ovation-like. Limited to 25 units worldwide at US$ 2,999 (street price).

I sincerely doubt the dove tail joint, or any other part of the guitar, is glued with epoxy. It's just doesn't make any sense to glue wood on wood that way, even for Ovation, and especially not for a high-end all-wood guitar and especially not at the dove tail joint.

A maple guitar done right sounds absolutely beautiful, but only few manufacturers get maple right (actually only Gibson).



Edited by leonardmccoy 2019-01-29 4:10 PM
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360Ovation
Posted 2019-01-29 6:24 PM (#546834 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Well, since it was made in Oxnard, and LOOKS (in body shape) just like a Larrivee LV model, maybe Larrivee is making these? They make maple guitars irregularly (and do a nice job). And I'm a BIG fan (and owner of several) Larrivees.

But this ... this is a $3,000 Ovation that no one is asking for. Like Beal; there, I said it.
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360Ovation
Posted 2019-01-29 6:25 PM (#546835 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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Here's a beautiful sounding (to my ears) Larrivee maple bodied guitar - that looks a LOT like the Ovation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPNmDh8uh8
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alpep
Posted 2019-01-29 9:16 PM (#546838 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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There are changes to the import models

Alternative woods are being used to avoid cities problems
These alternatives are also cheaper

The laminated top guitars such as the exotic series are now not as thick as the ones made last years
Those guitars had tips that were way too thick but beautiful to look at When I tired one last year I immediately told them thAt the tops were too thick
In good conscience I could not endorse those guitars
This years models are different

Yes the pattern on the epaulets are the same but they could have been inlaid

These are not bad guitars they play and sound good. Imho it was not well thought out

Ultimately it is not uniquely ovation
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motorcityrocker
Posted 2019-02-19 9:13 AM (#547076 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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I stopped by at the Ovation booth at Namm and met Darren. I was not impressed of what I saw that Ovation has regarding their guitars. I told Darren I wish DW would do a reissue of the Thunderbird guitar and I would buy one in a heart beat. Those guitars were so cool and based off of the 335 semi hollow body guitars. I doubt that guitar will ever be made again. I think Ovation is going to eventually go to the wayside like the Edsel, Pinto and Pacer. Enjoy these guitars while they are still here. I am glad I have my Ovations from their glory years.
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cholloway
Posted 2019-02-19 10:51 AM (#547082 - in reply to #546729)
Subject: Re: Live-ish from NAMM


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I told Darren I wish DW would do a reissue of the Thunderbird guitar


You mean Thunderhead... part of the Storm series.
The Fender Thunderbird is (IMO) one of the ugliest guitars ever!

BTW. I wish they would re-issue them also.

Edited by cholloway 2019-02-19 10:53 AM
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