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Notalent
Posted 2019-01-05 9:59 PM (#546422)
Subject: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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Hello. I have an older silver label 1111 in its original tan case. The case has a small crack that I’d like to repair. I plan to stop drill the crack, and then use the appropriate glue to fill the crack. The thing is, I don’t know if it’s made of a polyurethane, or ABS or ?? I called Ovation, and the folks I spoke with there were not sure of the case’s composition. I’d just like to make sure I’m using the right glue, as I don’t want to screw it up.

Thank you.

Notalent
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2019-01-07 12:01 PM (#546437 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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These old tan cases are -like all old plastic materials- brittle like glass. I could some of them with severe cracks "heal" with 2-component glue. Don´t try special plastic cements because the softeners of the material already exhaled years ago. I love these old cases because of the vintage looks but they are not good any more.
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Notalent
Posted 2019-01-07 3:50 PM (#546441 - in reply to #546437)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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DetlefMichel,

Thank you. Since it’s a small crack, I was just hoping it could be mended. Others have suggested the American standard, duct tape, which may ultimately be the best, most useable solution. I was just hoping for an indication of a glue I could try, and if it failed, then I was going to pursue Gorilla Tape, or something like that.

Thanks again,

Notalent
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-01-07 4:49 PM (#546443 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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Hi Notalent-

Can't answer your question as to exactly what the comp of the material is. I can say that I've used both Bondo and traditional fiberglass layups with excellent results. Neither was pretty, but no issue with adhesion. If it's just a crack, epoxy should do the trick.

This case was patched numerous times after 30 years of commercial flights. Got some mojo going for it...



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Notalent
Posted 2019-01-07 7:33 PM (#546446 - in reply to #546443)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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Jonmark,

That case is the definition of artful patina. Wow.

Thank you for the information.

Notalent

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Love O Fair
Posted 2019-01-07 11:24 PM (#546449 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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The cat can't decide which historical sniff is the best. Very cool case.
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arumako
Posted 2019-01-08 7:04 AM (#546451 - in reply to #546443)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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Jonmark Stone - 2019-01-07 6:49 AM

...If it's just a crack, epoxy should do the trick.

This case was patched numerous times after 30 years of commercial flights. Got some mojo going for it...


That's some serious mojo happening with that case Jonmark Stone! Just love pics like that... thanks for sharing!

And Hi there Notalent,
All the advice written above is excellent. The OFC features the nicest and most knowledgable folks. Epoxy has always worked well for me. Many of my cases crack at the butt-end where the 4 round metal buttons are... I usually drill a small 3/16th hole near the button and take a small allen wrench into the hole to push the button area outward from the inside (in my experience, there's usually enough space in this area to do this). Hysol 9462 (epoxy adhesive) works really well for applications like this, and it can be sanded and painted too.

The strongest solution would be to lay-up fiberglass/resin coating (as Jonmark Stone says), but that tends to be a bit cosmetically challenged in the end. Hope this helps. Good luck, and make sure to take some pics and let us know how it goes! Seeing how folks go about fixes like this is always educational and fun to follow...

Edited by arumako 2019-01-08 7:06 AM
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2019-01-08 12:11 PM (#546455 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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I had an old tan case with so may ugly repairs and a complete new "nose" (which I indeed made from fiberglass/epoxy!) that I decided to transform it into a "used airplane" design:

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Notalent
Posted 2019-01-08 4:01 PM (#546461 - in reply to #546455)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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Dang. The artistry of the Ovation cats is insane! Another great case! It’s obviously an ‘airline’ case....

Ok, so it looks like a good 2 part epoxy should work.

Thank you all.

I’ll try to take a couple of photos, and then i’ll probably need to cover my work with stickers....lots of stickers...because no way will it look as cool as the stuff I’ve seen...

Thanks again,

Notalent
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2019-01-08 5:58 PM (#546462 - in reply to #546455)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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DetlefMichel - 2019-01-08 12:11 PM

I had an old tan case with so may ugly repairs and a complete new "nose" (which I indeed made from fiberglass/epoxy!) that I decided to transform it into a "used airplane" design:



That is a "Cool " case nice work
Do you do custom orders LOL


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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2019-01-08 9:44 PM (#546465 - in reply to #546455)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair


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Beautiful. Only needed a "remove before flight" flag.

DetlefMichel - 2019-01-08 12:11 PM

I had an old tan case with so may ugly repairs and a complete new "nose" (which I indeed made from fiberglass/epoxy!) that I decided to transform it into a "used airplane" design:

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DetlefMichel
Posted 2019-01-09 10:49 AM (#546466 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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actually I have 2...

 

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Love O Fair
Posted 2019-01-09 10:56 AM (#546467 - in reply to #546422)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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Detlef.. I was in A&P school at the time I bought my first Ovation, so to me that airplane case would be quite appropriate for nostalgia's sake. Very, very cool!







Edited by Love O Fair 2019-01-09 11:01 AM
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2019-01-09 12:06 PM (#546470 - in reply to #546467)
Subject: Re: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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Love O Fair - 2019-01-09 5:56 PM

Detlef.. I was in A&P school at the time I bought my first Ovation, so to me that airplane case would be quite appropriate for nostalgia's sake. Very, very cool!






This began as a joke with the old ugly case, but if I would do it once again I would make it a little more accurate, this was made quite sloppy with some cans of laquer spray, some colour pens and some cheap decals. I jus had the idea to have a look like the case would have been made from a recycled airplane...some of the decals are nicely ambiguous:

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DanSavage
Posted 2019-01-10 11:22 AM (#546485 - in reply to #546461)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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Notalent - 2019-01-08 2:01 PM

Ok, so it looks like a good 2 part epoxy should work.


Make sure you scuff up with surface with 320-grit sandpaper before you apply the epoxy.
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DanSavage
Posted 2019-01-10 11:24 AM (#546486 - in reply to #546455)
Subject: RE: Vintage tan case plastic repair



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DetlefMichel - 2019-01-08 10:11 AM

I had an old tan case with so may ugly repairs and a complete new "nose" (which I indeed made from fiberglass/epoxy!) that I decided to transform it into a "used airplane" design:



I love it!
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