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bburg
Posted 2018-11-12 12:19 PM (#545816)
Subject: With a little help from my friends....



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....I will get a Viper preamp (EA) and a thinline pickup.

I try to build a guitar by my self, a kind of "EA-Viper", but with centre hole.
I have a nearly unused neck from a 25 years anniversary and did not find a body for it, So I decided to build something by my own. A nice rosette from a CL, the herring bone one or from the original 25 anny would be great as well. So Guys, offers to me!!

Bernie
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alpep
Posted 2018-11-13 6:45 PM (#545818 - in reply to #545816)
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Good luck
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Love O Fair
Posted 2018-11-13 8:05 PM (#545820 - in reply to #545816)
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Could end up being an interesting hybrid if you are patient enough to locate the right items. It would be great if you decide to post pictures of your build in the BFLG section as you go.
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FlySig
Posted 2018-11-14 8:37 AM (#545821 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: Re: With a little help from my friends....



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If you cannot find a VXT preamp, I would suggest you try the Fishman Ellipse Aura pickup and preamp system. Or something similar.

I am using a ZOOM AC-2 pedal with my Adamas Viper for the acoustic output. The saddle is the standard Ovation OPP acoustic saddle but there is no onboard preamp. The signal direct to an amplifier is not as nice sounding as any of my regular O/A guitars with an onboard preamp. The ZOOM pedal has digital processing similar to the OpPro VIP preamps, and it sounds very nice. It sounds very much like my 1537 with the FET preamp. It doesn't quite have the full low end of the 2080 with the VIP preamp, but it is close.

The digital modeling is very impressive with the ZOOM pedal. The Fishman Aura is probably the gold standard for such modeling but for my uses and budget I went with the ZOOM and am quite satisfied. The advantage of the Ellipse Aura system is you can install it in the guitar you are building.

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bburg
Posted 2018-11-15 1:53 PM (#545829 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: Re: With a little help from my friends....



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Thanks Guys for your answers. I hoped Al could offer something instead of good luck....

I have an original Ovation bridge, I don't know in which guitar it was built in, but it has the hole for the cable so it must be from one with an thinline pick up. That is the I "must have" item. I have several preamps (IDEA, OP24, OP40) and unfortunately Isold a very new Opima to Detlef Michel a few weeks ago. That would have been my first choice now. The kidney-OP's are too thick to fit in slim body. Now I'll use the OP24.
So Al, Guys, who has as thinline pickup for me?

Bernie
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FlySig
Posted 2018-11-15 4:30 PM (#545830 - in reply to #545816)
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Edited by FlySig 2018-11-15 4:31 PM
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FlySig
Posted 2018-11-15 5:19 PM (#545832 - in reply to #545816)
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This may be the correct one? https://reverb.com/item/16686429-ovation-cp-100-pickup-saddle-new-ra...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2018-11-15 7:00 PM (#545835 - in reply to #545832)
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FlySig - 2018-11-15 3:19 PM

This may be the correct one? https://reverb.com/item/16686429-ovation-cp-100-pickup-saddle-new-ra...

That particular saddle is for a Nylon string "classical" guitar.
But there are other CP-100's listed.
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bburg
Posted 2018-11-16 7:06 AM (#545840 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: Re: With a little help from my friends....



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Thanks FlySig, Thanks Arthur, unfortuantely it is for a classical... Need one with the radius for steel stings. Is John B. still working at the customer service center? Anybody has his current email address? I'll drop him a note.


Bernie
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FlySig
Posted 2018-11-16 8:36 AM (#545843 - in reply to #545816)
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No, John left the company a while ago.
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FlySig
Posted 2018-11-16 8:54 AM (#545844 - in reply to #545816)
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Another option would be to get an undersaddle piezo and make your own bone saddle to sit on top of it.
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bburg
Posted 2018-11-16 1:53 PM (#545848 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: Re: With a little help from my friends....



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Yes, I'm just serching for a fishman or shadow undersaddle pickup. Found an OP24+, those are nice on stage as well.

Bernie
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DanSavage
Posted 2018-11-16 2:33 PM (#545850 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: RE: With a little help from my friends....



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Bernie,

Since you've got a slim-line saddle, and if the saddle slot is angled in the bridge, I would use one of these Tusq compensated saddles. (White: PQ-9280-C0 : TUSQ ACOUSTIC SADDLE COMPENSATED, Black: PS-9280-C0 : STRINGSAVER ACOUSTIC 1/8" COMP SADDLE)

I used the black version on my 1778T(orrified) and one of the real benefits has been the guitar has perfect intonation across all six strings. The radius is pretty close, too.

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alpep
Posted 2018-11-16 5:00 PM (#545852 - in reply to #545816)
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I have slim line pickup
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bburg
Posted 2018-11-17 12:44 PM (#545864 - in reply to #545816)
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Dan, thanks for your advice!

Al. I knew you can help me. PM me an offer...

Thanks Guys!

Bernie
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bburg
Posted 2018-11-22 8:28 AM (#545919 - in reply to #545816)
Subject: Re: With a little help from my friends....



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So, no further reply here. I'm going to order the body-wood. Found a nice piece of swamp-ash, which is not very heavy and a maple top.
I'll keep you posted when I'll start the project with a new thread in the general section, also with some pictures...

Bernie
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