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alpep
Posted 2018-10-22 8:14 AM (#545596)
Subject: Yet another Glen reissue


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Ovation Guitars Adds To Glen Campbell Signature Collection
Two New Glen Campbell Models Pay Tribute To A Musical Legend
(Oct 22nd, 2018 – Oxnard, CA) Ovation Guitars has announced the launch of two new Glen Campbell Signature acoustic/electric guitars. The all-new mid-priced models are available with mid-depth composite backs in cutaway and non-cutaway versions and are shipping immediately.
Throughout his more than fifty-year recording career, Glen Campbell faithfully played Ovation guitars, and many of the unique design features incorporated in the Glen Campbell Signature collection have resulted from this long-term relationship. Whether in the studio, on stage or even on television, an Ovation guitar was never far from the side of this multi-Grammy Award winner.
These most recent models are based on Glen’s iconic “1771” and feature an easily playable shallow, Lyrachord composite body and a AAA solid Sitka Spruce top. They feature the traditional Legend sound hole with maple leaf rosette surround, diamond shaped mother of pearl fret board inlays and classic 70’s single volume/tone knob that controls Ovation’s feedback-free integrated electronics.
The hallmark of any Ovation guitar is superior playability attributed to the scale of the neck, string-to- string balance and hassle-free plug-and-play reliability. The new Campbell models are no exception. They have a warm, resonant and consistent tone with plenty of sustain and projection. Both the Natural Cedar non-cutaway (1627VL-4GC) and Sunburst cutaway (1771VL-1GC) come complete with durable nylon gig bag and retail for $1,829.99
To find out more about the affordable, contemporary Glen Campbell Signature guitars and all Ovations other products please go to http://www.ovationguitars.com/
ABOUT OVATION GUITARS
Founded in 1965, Ovation Guitars is an American manufacturer of acoustic-electric guitars, basses, mandolins and ukuleles. Known for their distinctive parabolic-shaped, composite backs, multi-wood epaulets and integrated electronics, Ovation guitars have been played by such legendary artists as Glen Campbell, Melissa Etheridge, Mick Jagger, John Lennon, Richie Sambora, Jimmy Page and Kevin Cronin among others. For more information, visit www.ovationguitars.com
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jay
Posted 2018-10-22 9:29 AM (#545597 - in reply to #545596)
Subject: RE: Yet another Glen reissue



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Good gosh.

"These most recent models are based on Glen’s iconic “1771”

The 1771 didn't even come out until around 90's. 

DW appears to have no clue about Glen and Ovation history. But if it sells guitars...

 

 

 

 

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d'ovation
Posted 2018-10-22 11:11 AM (#545599 - in reply to #545596)
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Really another GC. Did we not recently have at least one thread where people tried to unravel the differences between models and their historical relevance. And almost $1900 for MiK ... just wow, I am sure this will sell like free cinnamon buns.
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Standingovation
Posted 2018-10-22 2:41 PM (#545604 - in reply to #545596)
Subject: Re: Yet another Glen reissue



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Ground tremors just reported in Arkansas ...
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Damon67
Posted 2018-10-22 6:30 PM (#545607 - in reply to #545596)
Subject: Re: Yet another Glen reissue



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They're called 'tribute' models. Same as the 2017 Korean offering, they just ran out of stick-on rosettes and can't get anymore.

The 2017 model was a nice guitar, solid top, built well, all that stuff. They obviously regurgitated the same grossly inaccurate marketing piece that they did in 2017. This press release mimics the 2017 release which also had the same 'iconic 1771' phrase. The verbiage should have been "iconic 1627".

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alpep
Posted 2018-10-22 7:47 PM (#545609 - in reply to #545596)
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Why?
Because....

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2018-10-22 11:58 PM (#545611 - in reply to #545596)
Subject: Re: Yet another Glen reissue


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I wonder when we're going to learn the fate of Ovation guitars? If DW continues with it, they need to have somebody in charge who understands the history of the guitars and who has a vision of where they should be going. I thought Bill X might be that person, but no, he wasn't. By the way DW, the mid depth bowl with a cutaway was a 1667. It came out for a year or two in the mid 80's (84? 85?). Also, if they are going back to the mid depth bowl, then put the electronics back up on the shoulder. I've played the 2018 torry GC with the controls in the waist. Hard as all get out to see when you are playing. Anybody marketing Ovation ever play one?
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kentrookie
Posted 2018-10-23 12:22 AM (#545612 - in reply to #545596)
Subject: Re: Yet another Glen reissue


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See something say something?

info@ovationguitars has been very responsive to my occasional question, or any suggested web site corrections.

As DW owns the franchise... I vote for selling as many guitars as possible.

The collective OFC has a lot of knowledge that can be leveraged towards that goal.



Edited by kentrookie 2018-10-23 12:27 AM
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jay
Posted 2018-10-23 9:08 AM (#545613 - in reply to #545599)
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d'ovation\

I took your advice and attempted to rewrite the 1627 piece about Glen and his 1627 Ovation...hopefully, this gives a little more clarity. I still have some pictures to add of some of the models...but for now, I think this does a better job at describing each 1627 offering Ovation had.

Give it a look, Unfortunately, you have to start from the bottom of the page and read up or set the parameters found at the bottom of the page to ascending. 



Edited by jay 2018-10-23 9:18 AM
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standing
Posted 2018-10-23 9:13 AM (#545614 - in reply to #545596)
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$1,800 and it comes with a gig bag?
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jay
Posted 2018-10-23 9:40 AM (#545615 - in reply to #545611)
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Paul, it appears that they have a vision of where they are going. Overseas markets only. 

The only question I have is...

is this DW's vision of keeping Ovation and just selling Asian guitars 

or

Putting a mid-priced guitar company in place to sell off to xxx.

As far as Glen and the 1627 is concerned. Those buyers are (were) us. No one buying a guitar today gives a rats *** about (if they have a clue who he is) GC, nor if it is a 1627, 1667, or a 1771. There is nothing about that guitar that says GC, other than DW butchering his legacy (I think I have a picture somewhere with Cal @ NAMM holding one of the "Signature" guitars and the placard behind him says "Glenn" Campbell) with Ovation and calling it a signature guitar.

You can get them for a grand at GC and that, my friend, is today's Ovation. Thankfully, we were able to be part of the good old days.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2018-10-23 2:00 PM (#545616 - in reply to #545596)
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Sadly, yeah.....
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Love O Fair
Posted 2018-10-23 3:50 PM (#545617 - in reply to #545596)
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This is much like Chevrolet being excited to introduce a "new dynamic" Corvette for 2019, manufactured at their revolutionary El Salvador plant and featuring a straight-six engine, three speed transmission with column shift, and snow tires.

In the end, I am SO glad I was born when I was.
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2018-10-23 7:31 PM (#545618 - in reply to #545611)
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moody, p.i. - 2018-10-22 11:58 PM

By the way DW, the mid depth bowl with a cutaway was a 1667. It came out for a year or two in the mid 80's (84? 85?).


The mid depth with a cutaway would have been a 1777 legend, the 1667 was the first deep bowl cutaway legend made around 82/83 I have one.the first cutaway models were made by taking a standard bowl and removing a section and hand laying the cutaway from my understanding.they were the 1661,1667,1669 I believe then around 84 they started production cutaway bowls which became 1761,1767,1769.the first mid depths were introduced in the 90's I think starting with the 93 collectors


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2018-10-23 8:52 PM (#545619 - in reply to #545596)
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IN the mid 80's, the last few years of the Glen Campbell 1627 were mid depth bowls. The 06 reissue was of that guitar. In 83/84, Ovation called the Artist and GC Artist, shallow bowls. I think they were mid depth bowls by then. And the shallow bowl was gone by the 86 catalogs.

Good call on the model numbers. 1667 was the Legend cutaway. Always thought that would be the older Ovation to own.

Edited by moody, p.i. 2018-10-23 9:02 PM
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2018-10-23 10:12 PM (#545620 - in reply to #545596)
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I had heard they used mid bowls for some of the GC reissues,I find it interesting that the older literature calls them artist balladeers but the model number ends in a 7 like the legend models and I think some of the early ones also were described as A braced which is more of a legend attribute,I think the big kicker is he played more different ovation models for most of his career than his signature series

Edited by 2wheeldrummer 2018-10-23 10:14 PM
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nerdydave
Posted 2018-10-24 12:15 AM (#545621 - in reply to #545596)
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How blessed we were to be around from 69 to 71 and see the Goodtime Hour each week! Such inspiration we derived from seeing the master work those strings and sing those songs! Those younger exist in a different world. We will be content with our memories and our Ovations!!
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Standingovation
Posted 2018-10-24 5:35 AM (#545622 - in reply to #545596)
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Don't get me wrong (I am/was a big GC fanboy BITD) but if you were going to make an Ovation tribute model, AND having 5 previous GC attempts that wouldn't sell, MAYBE you would try a tribute model that more than 5-6 people would actually BUY? How about a Jim Croce or John Lennon guitar? A Harry Chapin? Or maybe a David Gilmore or Brian May 12-stringer?

Hey GREAT that you can buy this nice looking model for a thousand bucks (if you can find one), but IMHO it would sell JUST as much, or just as little, if you removed the GC signature and just call it what it really is ... a Koorean mid/artist cutaway Legend with stacked VT control. Nice guitar. Calling it a GC Tribute just cheapens the brand, cheapens the legacy of Ovation AND Glen, and just screams of desperation.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2018-10-24 8:50 AM (#545623 - in reply to #545620)
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2wheeldrummer - 2018-10-23 8:12 PM

I had heard they used mid bowls for some of the GC reissues,I find it interesting that the older literature calls them artist balladeers but the model number ends in a 7 like the legend models and I think some of the early ones also were described as A braced which is more of a legend attribute,I think the big kicker is he played more different ovation models for most of his career than his signature series


Artist bowl models had a 2 as the 3rd digit (1121, 1621, 1127, 1627). I assume that the 7 at the end designated the fancier neck. Gc Artist vs. Legend, 1127 vs. 1117.....
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jay
Posted 2018-10-24 10:25 AM (#545624 - in reply to #545622)
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Standingovation - Calling it a GC Tribute just cheapens the brand, cheapens the legacy of Ovation AND Glen, and just screams of desperation.

BAM!

My .02 ...Had Glen not passed away in 2017, that model would have been as unpopular as the 06 RI and the '11 LTD. DW caught a perfect storm and continues to attempt to cash in something totally removed from what should be understood as sacred. Show me Glen playing a burst ovation 1627 or whatever. 

 

 





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Mike S.
Posted 2018-10-25 8:13 PM (#545640 - in reply to #545596)
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Hello, Everyone,

All of the Ovation literature/catalogs I have show and tell that GC asked CK to make a smaller bowl, because, "the big guitar hurt my back", acording to GC, from when he would lean into the mic, because the guitars had no pickups at that time. GC hated being tied to a mic, and/or not hearing his guitar, and so he also asked CK to put a mic/pickup on/in the guitar itself, so VOILA, the Ovation Glen Campbell Artist acoustic/electric was born, years ahead of its time. Yes, Gibson's J-160E was used by The Beatles, and other British Invasion groups, but it was NOT the same thing. The first mid-depth cutaway was yes, indeed a Legend, 1777-4, made in 1977, and endorsed by Al Di Meola!! I know, because I still have the original flyer/spec sheet for it. I actually got one of those beautiful guitars, and BAD MICHAEL SOLD IT, to get a Ruger Mini-14.?!! DUH! It remains one of my few regrets in life. Yes, thank God, I did later sell the gun, and got yet another Ovation, but I never got the Legend back. The first SSB was the 1983 Collector's Series, and Ovation made the distinction between the 3 different bowl sizes after that time. Somehow, somewhere along the line, as mentioned in this forum previously, the bowl sizes for the Artist, Mid-Depth, and SSB guitar got very confusing. I hate confusion. I do love my 1993 Collector's mid-depth bowl guitar, so we have always CHK, and GTC, to thank for their great ideas making us great instruments.

Mike S.,
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2018-10-26 12:22 AM (#545642 - in reply to #545596)
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I hope that the Campbell family is getting paid for every time Glen's name is used.
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kentrookie
Posted 2018-11-22 11:31 PM (#545928 - in reply to #545596)
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Black Friday sale at GC on 1771VL-1GC. Hope at 700 a pop that the entry customer sees and gets enough value to “bond” with the brand.
DW needs a reason to stay in the game

Link
https://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation/1771VL-Glen-Campbell-Signature-...
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