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| Is an 1862, shallow or super-shallow?... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | supershallow |
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| ..thanks Tupp.. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | was there ever just shallow?? |
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Location: SoCal | That would be the artist depth bowl from the 70's. It was just known as the shallow bowl. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | now known as the mid |
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Location: SoCal | Actually, today's mid is slightly deeper than yesterday's shallow --- 5 3/8" vs. 5 1/4".
I think. Oddly enough, it's enough of a difference that you can see and feel it. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | :confused: |
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Location: SoCal | Why confused? |
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| Moody, I have a '78 Country Artist, so the bowl depth is 5-3/8", correct? Have you compared the acoustic-only difference between an early and late Country Artist model? I'm thinking mine would be just as sweet because the top has aged and has no cracks...As far as construction/bracing differences, I don't know, but mine still sounds bright with Savarez 520's. |
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Location: SoCal | Steve, your guitar is a shallow bowl (artist series depth -- 5 1/4"). The current mid depth bowl is deeper.
If you're happy with the sound, don't worry about stuff like bracing and bowl depth. Just play and enjoy. |
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| OK, that's right an 1/8th of an inch the other way...duh..
Are the bracings basically the same? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | This is no help, but...
The Ovation (homepage) Archive sez that my 1621 is a Shalow Bowl, but that my 1121 is a Deep Bowl...
They are the same guitar, basically (ain't they?).
And they both fit in the same case as my 1112's. :rolleyes:
[and it sez that they both have VT-8 Bracing] |
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Location: South of most, North of few | "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"
You can't believe a whole lot of whats on the Ovation website. There are a lot of errors there. |
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| A 1621 is a steel-string Artist, with the artist (shallow) bowl, I had one in 1972. A deep bowl will not fit in an artist case, so maybe the 1121 archive specs aren't quite accurate.. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | OK! You made me look! And I was mistaken... but only alittle!
I have four brown cases. The one that came with the 1121 (Acoustic Artist) has purple furry stuff inside....
Nothing besides the 1121 will fit in that one. Not even the 1621!
(but the 1121 will fit in the others)
I have two really ugly brown cases, so I just stick whichever guitar into a Nice case if we go out on a date!
I stand corrected. Cuz even the 1621 won't go in the Artist case, and it ain't just cuz of the knob, it has a pocket for that.
So... I'm confused now... If the 1121 is a deep bowl, why won't the 1621 fit in there? :p
Actually, they both look alike to me... Until I just tried this switch. |
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| Anyway, my original question about the 1862...there was a nice one on the 'bay, the auction just closed tonight, sold for $335. I thought was a good buy for the bucks, kind of a cutaway super-shallow verison of the Custom Balladeer, with a factor case. I guess it went for less without a reserve. I would've spent that to have an original in good condition.. |
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Location: SoCal | OMA, the 1121 is NOT a deep bowl. It's a shallow bowl Artist. The 1621 is the same guitar but with a pickup. Don't always believe the Ovation website archives.
Here's a link to the 1970 catalog when the Artist series of guitars was introduced (included the GC, the Artist, and a nylon string Artist Classic.
1970 Catalog
Also, I was wrong about the depth of the old shallow bowl. I said it was 5 1/4" deep. It was actually 5 1/8" deep (compared to the current mid depth bowl at 5 3/8"). |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Yeah, I know that. Both the --21's are Artist Bowls, so why won't my 1621 fit in the 1121 case?
Learn somethin' new everyday! :rolleyes:
[the 1121 does have it's serial # on the block, but it was made in New Hartford... I have no idea how old it is] |
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Location: CT | Push the lid down, then stand on it. Then it'll fit. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by brainslag:
Push the lid down, then stand on it. Then it'll fit. :D :D |
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Bowl depth question..
