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BCam
Posted 2017-10-09 4:09 PM (#537669)
Subject: Kala U Base Repair


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A friend of mine dropped his Kala U Bass and the neck damaged the top around and underneath the fingerboard. I'm going to try removing the neck so I can repair the top. I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of glue was used or how best to start trying. I was thinking of starting with bags of hot water to see if that loosens things up.





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seesquare
Posted 2017-10-09 9:33 PM (#537671 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire		Ouch. Yeah, start with the boiling water scenario. You've got broken ribs, & a split top. If you're lucky, there will be minimal adhesive in the joint, & it will wiggle free.
"Use the small hammers first............." :-)
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BCam
Posted 2017-10-10 12:04 AM (#537672 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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My goal is playable, not beautiful. If it proves not to be fixable, I'm thinking about using the neck to make a solid body bass uke.
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BCam
Posted 2017-10-10 12:15 AM (#537673 - in reply to #537671)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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seesquare - 2017-10-09 9:33 PM

You've got broken ribs, & a split top


No broken ribs that I can see or feel, just damage to the circular reinforcement around the sound hole. There's a large block under the fingerboard extension, extending from inside the heel's attachment point almost to the sound hole and from the top to the back.
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seesquare
Posted 2017-10-10 7:46 AM (#537675 - in reply to #537673)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire		That will be fortunate, then. You really won't know, 'til you pull the neck. Hopefully, the bowl hasn't been too distorted, either.
Best-of-luck!
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-10-10 11:21 AM (#537684 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair



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Location: Pueblo West, CO		You might try contacting the factory and asking them what kind of glue was used on the neck joint and/or how the neck is attached.

If you can't get any info from them, try asking this question on the Official Luthier's Forum. (http://luthiersforum.com/forum/) There's some pretty knowledgeable folks over there.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-10-10 10:21 PM (#537694 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair



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Location: When??		That photo makes me feel like scheduling a chiropractor appointment. I am hoping you will find minimal damage once inside. Please keep progress posted here.
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BCam
Posted 2017-10-11 1:45 PM (#537708 - in reply to #537694)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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I noticed when I was fiddling with the truss rod that, as I tightened it, things started to move back in place. Apparently the inside block isn't glued to the back. Using some blocks and a clamp I was able to move things back, almost into place. The worst side is now about 1/32" out of line and, with some rotational pressure on the neck, pretty much lines up.

I think I might just go ahead and cleat the cracks, string it up and see how it plays. It won't be pretty but will still look better than Willie Nelson's Trigger. I can always do more if this is unsuccessful.







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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-10-11 1:53 PM (#537710 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR		I see your Problem.

That guitar (Ukulele) is not made for Steel Bass Strings.
It is made for big rubber bands.
http://www.bassuke.com/Pahoehoe.html

You photo looks like steel strings.
I could be incorrect.

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BCam
Posted 2017-10-11 5:36 PM (#537714 - in reply to #537710)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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It belongs to a friend and I've already talked to him about the strings. Even though they're steel, they're made by Kala for the U bass and are advertised as low tension. Nonetheless, I expect they do put more stress on the uke than the soft rubbery strings. Although they could be a factor in the damage I suspect the drop onto the headstock was enough in itself.
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BCam
Posted 2017-10-11 11:57 PM (#537722 - in reply to #537714)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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It's finished. It's not up to Dan Savage's standards but it's playable and, according to Ted, the owner, sounds and feels like before it was damaged. Does this make me a "quick and dirty" luthier?

Ted's kids perform as "The College Fund Street Band" to earn money for college and the bass is part of it all. Here's a link to their Facebook page, check them out:

https://www.facebook.com/TheCollegeFund/
Here's how it came out:

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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2017-10-12 5:48 PM (#537744 - in reply to #537722)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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Location: Indiana		Nice job.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-10-12 8:41 PM (#537748 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair



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Location: When??		Congratulations on your "quick and dirty" work. Excellent fix for the price.
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BCam
Posted 2017-10-15 6:17 AM (#537768 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair


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Ted used it to play bass for his kids at a church festival gig yesterday and will be doing so again at a pumpkin farm today so I feel good about having been able to help them out. Thanks for your compliments. This is much more fun than my "honey do" projects.
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FlySig
Posted 2017-10-18 10:33 AM (#537800 - in reply to #537669)
Subject: Re: Kala U Base Repair



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Location: Utah		I've found the wound strings sound much better than the rubber strings. They intonate much better, too. There is more tension than the rubber strings, but still not a lot, and I see nothing that worries me that it is stressing the instrument.

Nice job getting the instrument back in playable condition!
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