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Refret, or re-seat frets?

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MarkM
Posted 2017-03-15 6:52 PM (#533238)
Subject: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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Apologies for the cell phone pictures.

My recently purchased 1614 has some lifting frets, maybe they weren't ever seated (I'm assuming this is not original). Some show a brown glue ooze bulging out from under the tangs. I haven't tested the glue for hardness.

These frets are generating string buzzing.

I have a plastic faced hammer, heat source, and an arbor press (for the remaining 18 hours of my visit to my brother's farm). No cauls, but I might be able to fabricate some.

Hit?  Heat & hit? Heat & squeeze? I'm sure there are a few opinions out there.

Thanks!

Mark - on the farm

 

 

 

 

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MarkM
Posted 2017-03-15 6:57 PM (#533239 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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Now I can't submit the pictures, I'll try later from my laptop.
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MarkM
Posted 2017-03-15 8:51 PM (#533242 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2017-03-15 9:07 PM (#533243 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?



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Here ya' go....




Edited by Old Man Arthur 2017-03-15 9:20 PM
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-16 10:34 AM (#533247 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?



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My 1619 also had frets lifting on the edge like what can be seen in the photos.

I tried to hammer them back down but didn't have any luck. Of course I also didn't heat them up to soften the glue.

You might be able to get them back down by heating the fret with the tip of a soldering iron to soften the glue, then giving it a whack with your plastic-face hammer.

The only way to tell for sure if it'll work is to give it a shot.
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tpa
Posted 2017-03-16 1:12 PM (#533250 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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No experience but my proposal - if they are glued - would be heat and press and see if they stay put.
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BCam
Posted 2017-03-16 2:31 PM (#533252 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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Are you referring to a arbor press expressly intended for fret installation? If not, you could cause irreparable damage.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-03-16 6:34 PM (#533259 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?



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Probably too late, but I think I'd want to take them completely out and see exactly what's under there. That freaky ooze may not be anything you want to keep (said the Philippine doctor to the sailor).
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-03-20 10:47 PM (#533317 - in reply to #533259)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?



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Love O Fair - 2017-03-16 4:34 PM

Probably too late, but I think I'd want to take them completely out and see exactly what's under there. That freaky ooze may not be anything you want to keep (said the Philippine doctor to the sailor).


Make sure to use a soldering iron to soften the glue so that you don't chip out the fret slots. Slower is better than faster.

Dan Erlewine's video is a good primer on how to remove frets.

http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Trade_Secrets/Removing_the_frets_on_t...

Edited by DanSavage 2017-03-20 10:49 PM
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FlySig
Posted 2017-03-22 5:00 PM (#533348 - in reply to #533238)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?



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What happened? What was the brown stuff under the frets?
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MarkM
Posted 2017-03-30 5:45 PM (#533460 - in reply to #533348)
Subject: Re: Refret, or re-seat frets?


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FlySig - 2017-03-22 3:00 PM What happened? What was the brown stuff under the frets?

I departed Oregon (brother's shop) without further work on the 1614.

When I address it, I will report in.

M^2

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