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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 5:52 PM (#76542)
Subject: OT: Clone Old Hard Drive Before Upgrading??


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I gave a friend one of my older iBook laptops and she has recently used up nearly all the HardDrive. HardDrive upgrades are available, but with the installation of a new OS, she will lose many of the apps like the OfficeSuite and others...

Anybody have a SIMPLE and Elegant solution to clone the old drive so the apps can be transfered back on to the new disc... She's smart, but not particularly well versed in things computer...

ideas??
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cliff
Posted 2007-10-29 6:07 PM (#76543 - in reply to #76542)
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Yeah, tell her t'use it as a doorstop, and buy a REAL computer . . .
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numbfingers
Posted 2007-10-29 6:19 PM (#76544 - in reply to #76542)
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Does the iBook have a USB port? If so, why not just buy an external USB drive and/or a USB flash drive? Move her data files to the external drive(s) and free up space on the internal drive. When she gets a new computer or larger hard disk, the data files will be easily available.

-Steve W.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-10-29 6:31 PM (#76545 - in reply to #76542)
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When you upgrade the OS, you lose all the apps? How silly is that?


Most of the disk cloning software I've used only runs under win.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-10-29 6:54 PM (#76546 - in reply to #76542)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
When you upgrade the OS, you lose all the apps? How silly is that?
Well, it is an Apple :rolleyes:
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 7:01 PM (#76547 - in reply to #76542)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 7:08 PM (#76548 - in reply to #76542)
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Not the OS, but the hard drive... Of course we don't lose apps when upgrading the OS...

I have always used my "old" computer to transfer the non-bundled applications (MS Office and such) directly to my new computer... I've never tried to move MS Office Suite applications from the old computer, to a external drive... then to the new computer (hard drive)...

I'm looking into Maxtor which is supposed to make an exact copy of the complete the hard drive...

Clifford, might I recommend that you commence auto-erotic coitus...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 7:11 PM (#76549 - in reply to #76542)
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and Stephen, feel free to make it a duet...
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dvd
Posted 2007-10-29 7:23 PM (#76550 - in reply to #76542)
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Jeff, SuperDuper and an external USB drive would be my recommendation.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-10-29 7:28 PM (#76551 - in reply to #76542)
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Okay, if I understood that right - she will change the internal hard drive to a bigger one. So, she will start with a fresh, clean drive?

Okay, for a backup she needs an external disk, or an external housing to install the old, smaller disk. Then use "carbon copy cloner" or the Apple own "disk utility program" (sorry, maybe it's called a little bit different in the US, but my Mac speaks german).

By the way, Waskel and Stephen, upgrading the OS doesn't lose anything. Made it more than ten times.

There is even an option called "migration assistent", that let you mirror your old computer to a new one through fire wire with one mouse click. Nothing has to be installed if you choose that way, and the new computer starts up with all data, programs, internet settings like the old one. Can you do this with Mr. Gates' OS?

Jeff, if she doesn't want to buy an external disk for a backup, she could also store everything of the harddrive on DVD's. Don't forget to save all the plists, preferences and so on to not loose mails, settings and so on.

But, if she won't go "that deep", why not let the store who sells her the new harddrive have the old drive cloned and then copy it back on the new drive?

Kurt
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-10-29 7:28 PM (#76552 - in reply to #76542)
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dvd
Posted 2007-10-29 7:29 PM (#76553 - in reply to #76542)
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or send it to me and I'll do it for you
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-10-29 7:29 PM (#76554 - in reply to #76542)
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I guess Maxtor works.

...if you're into that sort of thing.
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dvd
Posted 2007-10-29 7:39 PM (#76555 - in reply to #76542)
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Kurt makes a good point, they should be able to move your data for you at the Apple store Genius Bar if you buy the drive from them.
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dvd
Posted 2007-10-29 7:52 PM (#76556 - in reply to #76542)
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flippin server
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 7:54 PM (#76557 - in reply to #76542)
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do you notice how polite and helpful Mac folks are...

that's because they are not frustrated and irritable from rebooting their computers five times daily...

Kurt and David, thanks... yes Kurt you nailed it... and David, SuperDuper looks great... and do mean you will change out the hard drive? If so, we can arrange that too!
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Posted 2007-10-29 7:57 PM (#76558 - in reply to #76542)
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Sure, I'm game.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 8:01 PM (#76559 - in reply to #76542)
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Let's talk. PM impending...
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stephent28
Posted 2007-10-29 8:03 PM (#76560 - in reply to #76542)
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impending.....

Is that MacSpeak for the letter "S"
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-10-29 8:40 PM (#76561 - in reply to #76542)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
impending.....

Is that MacSpeak for the letter "S"
:D :D
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BluesSailor
Posted 2007-10-29 8:47 PM (#76562 - in reply to #76542)
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Excuse me while I reboot.

Props to the helpful folks!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-10-29 8:53 PM (#76563 - in reply to #76542)
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"Command F", Stephen
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Waskel
Posted 2007-10-30 7:23 AM (#76564 - in reply to #76542)
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Jeff & Kurt, of course I was kidding about upgrading the OS, I've had to do it several times on some Macs at work. Jest giving you a bad time.

What you need (I'm assuming the notebook has a 2.5" drive) is one of these external drive enclosures . If you buy a new, 'in the box' drive, it should come with cloning software or it should be available on the manufacturers site. If not, I'm sure there are hundreds of free programs you can ... no, wait that would be for PCs... I'm sure there are 5 programs you could download that will do it.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-10-30 7:30 AM (#76565 - in reply to #76542)
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Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:

There is even an option called "migration assistant", that let you mirror your old computer to a new one through fire wire with one mouse click. Nothing has to be installed if you choose that way, and the new computer starts up with all data, programs, internet settings like the old one. Can you do this with Mr. Gates' OS?
Yes.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-10-30 7:59 AM (#76566 - in reply to #76542)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:

There is even an option called "migration assistant", that let you mirror your old computer to a new one through fire wire with one mouse click. Nothing has to be installed if you choose that way, and the new computer starts up with all data, programs, internet settings like the old one. Can you do this with Mr. Gates' OS?
Yes.
Okay, I have to admit, Microsoft is getting better. I "installed" two new Macs that way for the first time a few weeks ago and was surprised, how easy it was.

The new Macs started up the same as the old one: same wallpaper, programms, data, keywords, settings. Just perfect - without inserting one programm cd after another.

But, to be true, you haven't been honest: You can't do it via Fire Wire ;)

Kurt
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