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DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | I've decided to sell my 1978 1617-4 that I rebuilt. (Serial #: 154266) This guitar features a torrefied Sitka spruce top wtih forward X-braces that are tapered and scalloped torrefied Sitka spruce that gives the guitar a bright, punchy sound. (See: Banjo Killer? The scoop on forward X bracing for greater guitar volume.) The action of the low-E is .093" at the 12th fret with one tapered shim (.022" - .036") under the saddle. I'm including an extra thin phenolic shim (.019") and and an extra tapered shim so that the action can be adjusted to suit the buyer's playing style. The guitar currently has new Elixir 80/20 Extra Light strings. I would not recommend anythin heavier than light gauge strings on this guitar. The guitar does have a couple of visual warts. I never filled the holes left in the bowl by the old electronics. This doesn't affect the sound. These can be seen in the pics below. I'm asking $850 USD + shipping & insurance. Dan Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-28 11:52 AM | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15652 Location: SoCal | Wow..... | ||
bburg |
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Joined: August 2009 Posts: 1137 Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Well done, Dan!! Great job!! Bernie | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6992 Location: Jet City | $850? At that price you're throwing in the blood and sweat for free. Nice looking guitar, good luck with the sale | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Thanks, Paul & Bernie. Damon, Thanks. I'm not looking to make any real money on the deal. Just enough so I can start gathering tools and supplies for my wood bowl Ovation(s). Dan | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769 Location: When?? | Mitchwaks.. are you seeing this?? | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769 Location: When?? | @Dan -->"...so I can start gathering tools and supplies for my wood bowl Ovation(s)." Wait.. have I been missing something you've mentioned before? You are going to make wood bowl Ovations? As in, non lyrachord? Edited by Love O Fair 2017-02-28 8:08 PM | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Love O Fair - 2017-02-28 6:04 PM Wait.. have I been missing something you've mentioned before? You are going to make wood bowl Ovations? As in, non lyrachord? Yes. Imagine an Ovation that looks something like this, but with a torrefied top and braces. Rosewood, mahogany and maple bowl. Now, imagine a wood-bowl Custom Legend. Then, imagine a wood-bowl Custom Elite. That's what I'm going to build. A wood-bowl Custom Legend and a wood-bowl Custom Elite. Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-28 9:09 PM | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769 Location: When?? | That is only the second wood bowl Ovation I've ever seen. Sheltered life, I guess. The other one was that butcher-block-looking affair that someone posted a link to several months ago, but it didn't really have all that much "Ovation-ness" to it. Looked like it weighed a ton. This one, on the other hand, is very cool. I'm anxious to watch the process on yours. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Love O Fair - 2017-02-28 7:18 PM That is only the second wood bowl Ovation I've ever seen. Sheltered life, I guess. The other one was that butcher-block-looking affair that someone posted a link to several months ago, but it didn't really have all that much "Ovation-ness" to it. Looked like it weighed a ton. This one, on the other hand, is very cool. I'm anxious to watch the process on yours. Those were the Hamer salad-bowl guitars. Totally different beasties.
My wood-bowl Custom Legend and Custom Elite will be solid-wood rosewood, mahogany and maple bowls with torrefied Adirondack top guitars. The Custom Legend will be A-braced and the Custom Elite will be Quintad-braced. Edited by DanSavage 2017-02-28 9:37 PM | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769 Location: When?? | @Dan ->"Those were the Hamer salad-bowl guitars."<- So now make that 3 roundback wood bowls I've seen... but the other one I was referring to wasn't the Hamer salad bowl. I think it was just someone's one-off shop project (on eBay from Europe), and the wood pieces were side-by-side linear like the Alverez pictured above, though theirs looked rough and quite less finished, much like a kitchen cutting board. @Dan ->"That's what I'm going to build. A wood-bowl Custom Legend and a wood-bowl Custom Elite."<- Spoken like Sir Edmund Hillary as he was first standing at the base of Everest. Awesome aspiration. Looking forward to your climb. | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6992 Location: Jet City | Dan, obviously a wood bowl has been done already, where's the challenge in that? Do something REALLY impressive. Let's see a wood contour bowl :D | ||
Mike S. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 563 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | Hi, Everyone, Both Hohner, and Alvarez-Yairi made wood-bowl guitars at one time, c. early 90's? The Hohner Eclipes had the salad bowl look, w/ multiple sound holes, and The Alvarez-Yairi was a ribbed version, like a lute, or mandolin, with a center sound hole. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Flattery will get you nowhere. Mike S. Ottawa, ON. CANADA Edited by Mike S. 2017-03-02 2:50 PM | ||
arumako |
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 1018 Location: Yokohama, Japan | Damon67 - 2017-03-02 3:22 AM Dan, obviously a wood bowl has been done already, where's the challenge in that? Do something REALLY impressive. Let's see a wood contour bowl :D LOL! | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15652 Location: SoCal | Did I miss it? Did the guitar sell? | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Technically, the round-back guitar is not new. It was an outgrowth of the lute. The original guitars were round-back. Economy of production lead to the flat-back guitars as these were faster and less labor-intensive to produce. The round-back guitars are known as vaulted back guitars. What Charlie did that was unique was to mold them from fiberglass instead of making them from wood. Again, this was a cost-saving production decision. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | moody, p.i. - 2017-03-02 5:28 PM Did I miss it? Did the guitar sell? Nope. It's still available. | ||
DetlefMichel |
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 751 Location: Muenster/Germany | DanSavage - 2017-02-28 6:43 PM I never filled the holes left in the bowl by the old electronics. I use dummy plugs, look ok and are removable...for the use as an additional soundhole are these holes too small. http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/bluesman19591/Ovation%20repair/P1020538_zpsn27n6m7e.jpg But I must say that I did have a guitar with additional soundholes right there and the effect was very interesting, like a stereo sound. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Thanks for the suggestion, Detlef. I'll see about getting a couple of these. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | I was able to source a couple of plugs for the holes used for the old preamp system. I can't hear any change, but they do make the guitar look more finished. | ||
Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | You gotta plug those holes or the sound will leak out the side. | ||
Love O Fair |
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Joined: February 2016 Posts: 1769 Location: When?? | If anyone asks about the black plugs, you (or the new owner) can simply say they are ports for where the bias granular set docks into it for playing south of the equator. What's crazy is how many people will nod and agree. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Old Man Arthur - 2017-03-04 12:59 PM You gotta plug those holes or the sound will leak out the side. Ha! It's a good thing I put the brass tack back into the hole next to where the volume knob used to be otherwise the guitar would sound like it's made from cardboard. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | I'd really like to move forward with collecting the tools and supplies I need for my wood-bowl Ovations, So I'm going to discount the price of this guitar to $750 + shipping and insurance. | ||
DanSavage |
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Joined: June 2012 Posts: 2303 Location: Lake Forest, CA | Lots of page views, but not much action. How about $650 OBO? | ||
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