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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-04 9:49 AM (#533533 - in reply to #533530)
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Hi Paul,

Yes, by hand. I wet sand with 400-grit to start. Once I've got the final coat on, I will work up from 400-grit to 600, 800, 1000, 1500 and finally 2000-grit.

Each takes about 30 minutes. I could use a RO hand-sander, but I don't want to split the center seam from the vibrations of the sander. Hand-sanding is a little slow, but it's the safest route. I also have more control so I don't burn through the finish around the edges.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-04 10:21 AM (#533534 - in reply to #531569)
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How many coats?

As to the Legend becoming my favorite guitar, it's going to have to compete with the rebirthed 1537. But I will be most happy to compare the two of them for years to come....
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-04 12:02 PM (#533537 - in reply to #533534)
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Usually 3-4 coats of the sealer, or as many as it takes to get a level surface. Then, another 2-3 coats of final finish.

I'll usually make the last coat a little thicker because that one will get more sanding than the previous coats.
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BCam
Posted 2017-04-04 4:57 PM (#533539 - in reply to #533533)
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DanSavage - 2017-04-04 9:49 AM
I also have more control so I don't burn through the finish around the edges.


It's nothing compared to what you're doing, but I'm in the process of painting a bathroom vanity. I was sanding between coats with an RO sander and sanded through the finish at a couple of cabinet door edges. I can only imagine what it would be like on a guitar.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-06 8:46 PM (#533561 - in reply to #533539)
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BCam - 2017-04-04 2:57 PM

DanSavage - 2017-04-04 9:49 AM
I also have more control so I don't burn through the finish around the edges.


It's nothing compared to what you're doing, but I'm in the process of painting a bathroom vanity. I was sanding between coats with an RO sander and sanded through the finish at a couple of cabinet door edges. I can only imagine what it would be like on a guitar.


I used a RO sander on my 1111 and found that the finer grits prevented burning through the finish.

So, instead of hand sanding with 400-grit, I used 600-grit with the RO sander. This allowed me to sneak up to removing the orange peel without burning through to bare wood.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-17 11:27 PM (#533737 - in reply to #531569)
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Final finish is on, leveled and polished. Bridge is being glued.



I'll glue the rosette on tomorrow night, then install the hardware and string it up. Woo-hoo!

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-17 11:39 PM (#533738 - in reply to #531569)
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Is that a standard bridge or the 5 point rosewood bridge?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-18 12:41 AM (#533739 - in reply to #531569)
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If the sound is even c lose to the look then it will be steller.....
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-18 1:41 AM (#533740 - in reply to #533738)
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moody, p.i. - 2017-04-17 9:39 PM

Is that a standard bridge or the 5 point rosewood bridge?


You wanted the standard walnut bridge, right?

Nah, just kidding. Hah hah!

It's your 5-point rosewood bridge. I'm using my standard-shaped bridge caul for the clamping.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-18 1:45 AM (#533741 - in reply to #533739)
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moody, p.i. - 2017-04-17 10:41 PM

If the sound is even c lose to the look then it will be steller.....


It looks way better in person. We'll be finding out real soon if it sounds as good as it looks. (It will)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-18 1:01 PM (#533754 - in reply to #531569)
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I am full of anticipation. When it's ready, I'll bring over the 1537. You'll love how it's opened up since you did your magic on the braces......
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-18 1:44 PM (#533755 - in reply to #533754)
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Sounds good.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-19 1:19 AM (#533765 - in reply to #531569)
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Bridge and rosette are glued down. Touch-up is done.

I'll install the hardware tomorrow, then it's time to string it up and see how it sounds.

Paul,

I'll be putting lights on it. My personal preference for deep bowls is 80/20s, but if you'd like to have PBs, I can do that, too. (Yes, now is the time to get excited)

Dan

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arumako
Posted 2017-04-19 5:30 AM (#533769 - in reply to #531569)
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WOW Dan! Had it not been for the banker's box you'd think this beauty was rolling off of the production line in NH for the first time...like it's 1978 all over again! Congratulations on another beautiful work of art. Can't wait to hear your players report!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-19 9:42 AM (#533774 - in reply to #531569)
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Dan, I left a set of Elixir phos/bronze lites with the guitar. I can bring over another set if needed. I find I'm putting them on everything these days.

The guitar look beautiful!

Edited by moody, p.i. 2017-04-19 9:51 AM
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-19 10:07 AM (#533775 - in reply to #533774)
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Yep, I've still got them. I'll put on the PB lights.

Thanks. It's hard to see in the pics, but the rosewood bridge really pops on the torrefied wood.

I'm really looking forward to hearing how it sounds. I suspect it'll sound every bit as good as the 1717, if not a wee bit better due to the Adi top and braces.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-19 10:09 AM (#533776 - in reply to #533769)
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arumako - 2017-04-19 3:30 AM

WOW Dan! Had it not been for the banker's box you'd think this beauty was rolling off of the production line in NH for the first time...like it's 1978 all over again! Congratulations on another beautiful work of art. Can't wait to hear your players report!


Thanks, Ken.

It's not without its flaws, but all in all, I'm really happy with how it turned out.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-19 12:08 PM (#533780 - in reply to #531569)
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When I look at the 1113, what you call "flaws", I call "personality". They help make the guitar as cool as it is.

And yes, I'm excited.....

Edited by moody, p.i. 2017-04-19 12:11 PM
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-04-19 3:28 PM (#533788 - in reply to #531569)
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Beautiful guitar. You should be proud, Dan.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-19 4:36 PM (#533791 - in reply to #533788)
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Thanks, Daren.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-19 5:17 PM (#533792 - in reply to #531569)
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Sitting on the edge of my chair....
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BanjoJ
Posted 2017-04-19 5:50 PM (#533793 - in reply to #531569)
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Very impressive Dan. All I can say is WOW!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-04-19 9:36 PM (#533795 - in reply to #531569)
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this is killing me, waiting on word for how it sounds......
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-20 8:58 AM (#533799 - in reply to #531569)
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Well, it's all done. It sounds as spectacular as it looks.

IMO, it would sound better with 80/20s, but that's a personal preference. If you like the sound of PBs, you're going to love how this guitar sounds.

Loud, clear tones. Sustain that lasts forever. Like an A-brace Legend on steroids. Did I say it was loud? To coin a phrase, this guitar has balls -- big brass ones.

Here's a snapshot of it. I'll post proper beauty shots this afternoon.

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DanSavage
Posted 2017-04-20 9:02 AM (#533800 - in reply to #531569)
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I guess the only remaining question for Paul is, when do you want to come pick it up?

I'm free every night this week.
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