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arumako
Posted 2017-04-24 10:39 PM (#533900 - in reply to #533894)
Subject: Re: 1978 1117-4 Legend...



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DanSavage - 2017-04-24 8:17 AM

Hi Ken,

Sure thing. What did you have in mind?

Dan


The 1612...Oh, YES! See you over on the other thread...

Edited by arumako 2017-04-24 10:40 PM
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-05-04 10:14 PM (#535060 - in reply to #531569)
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I want to make a couple of last comments on this thread, then we can wrap it up.

First, the Legend just sounds better the more I play it. I've only had it back a little under 3 weeks. It gets better as I play it and I'm surprised at how fast that is happening. It's got the Ovation sound, but a lot more mid range and bass (the A,D, & D strings really chunk when you play them - they sound great). It's loud, full, and opening up. It has the Ovation sound but on steroids. It's pretty terrific. At one time I had an LR Baggs undersaddle p/u in it. I"m going to put it back in and use it at church occassionally.

Dan also had his hands on my 1537. It sounds like it used to sound like which is wonderful. A little more compressed than the Legend and even with all of it's bass, it's a more even sound. I love this guitar. But I do bounce back and forth between this and the Legend. I plug in the 87C, but acoustically, as good as it is, it's not the same.

Lastly, last year, Dan retopped a 1113 for me, same wood and braces as the Legend. It sounds great and is a joy to play.

If you are thinking of asking Dan to work on a guitar, know that his work is worth a lot more than he charged me. Pay what he asks. It's worth it.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-04 11:16 PM (#535062 - in reply to #535060)
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Thanks for the kind words, Paul. I appreciate it.

Yeah, once your ears get used to the sound of torrefied wood, it's really hard to go back.

Torrefied wood takes these guitars to another level that just can't be matched with non-torrefied wood.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-06-05 2:24 AM (#535415 - in reply to #531569)
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Here's some (very bad) video I shot a couple of weeks ago of Paul playing this guitar out at Trabuco Canyon General Store.

Paul Moody - 1977 Ovation 1117-4 Rebuild...

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-06-05 3:31 PM (#535423 - in reply to #531569)
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The video doesn't do the guitar justice. This may be the best sounding Legend I've ever played. It has strong mids and bass and great tone. Kind of a cross between the tone of a wood box and the cut of an Ovation. If it had sounded this good when I bought it back in 1978, I might have never purchased another guitar (well, except a 12 string and a nylon string).

It's a damned fine instrument. I could consider putting a p/u and selling the 87C (which is my go to for plugging in).

Well, probably not......
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-06-05 5:06 PM (#535425 - in reply to #531569)
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@moody, p.i.: I agree with what you write about the video and the guitar. Luckily, your playing and the pure sound of the torrified wood still manages to come through in the video.

@DanSavage: Thanks for posting the video. Now we know why you didn't post it earlier.

Edited by DarenSavage 2017-06-05 5:07 PM
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-06-05 5:44 PM (#535432 - in reply to #531569)
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Yeah, there's video shot by paparazzi on the run, then there's this video. (oof!)
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-06-05 7:19 PM (#535433 - in reply to #535432)
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DanSavage - 2017-06-05 5:44 PM

Yeah, there's video shot by paparazzi on the run, then there's this video. (oof!)

Ha ha! While I was joshin' ya about the quality of the video, I'm dead serious about the sound of the guitar. Beautiful!
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arumako
Posted 2017-06-05 10:57 PM (#535436 - in reply to #535433)
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DarenSavage - 2017-06-05 9:19 AM
I'm dead serious about the sound of the guitar. Beautiful!

Dead serious indeed! Man, this 1117 cuts right through all the noise in the "house". I think that is called "presence". My '73 1117 has it too, but this one has it in spades! I've heard Yamaha and Ibanez's torrefied offerings in person; but I don't remember them having this kind of presence. I've not heard one of these live, so I obviously defer to Dan, Daren and Paul's expertise, but there must be something really magical happening with the torrefied top and Lyrachord bowl combination. Just a stunning display of resonance & presence!
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-06-06 4:10 PM (#535438 - in reply to #535436)
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arumako - 2017-06-05 10:57 PM

DarenSavage - 2017-06-05 9:19 AM
I'm dead serious about the sound of the guitar. Beautiful!

Dead serious indeed! Man, this 1117 cuts right through all the noise in the "house". I think that is called "presence". My '73 1117 has it too, but this one has it in spades! I've heard Yamaha and Ibanez's torrefied offerings in person; but I don't remember them having this kind of presence. I've not heard one of these live, so I obviously defer to Dan, Daren and Paul's expertise, but there must be something really magical happening with the torrefied top and Lyrachord bowl combination. Just a stunning display of resonance & presence!

You'll see. Or, more accurately, you'll hear (when you get your Savage Ovation 1612--Congrats and welcome to the club!).

I agree with you about the combination of torrified top and 'glass bowl. The full sound of a Savage Ovation is lost through digital audio. Just as our eyes can see a range that is difficult to capture in digital photographs, the SO guitar's magical sound can only be heard in person.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2017-06-06 5:20 PM (#535439 - in reply to #531569)
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My 1117 is the best sounding Legend I've ever played.....
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