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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-09 9:55 AM (#535097 - in reply to #531529)
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At first, it was just the positive at the joint on the socket. Then, after I got the pre-amp apart and soldered the positive back on the socket, I notice both power wires had come free of the board. Old, delicate wires.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-09 10:10 AM (#535098 - in reply to #535097)
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Kewl.

At least you got it working again. (Phew!)
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-09 10:46 AM (#535099 - in reply to #531529)
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Hakuna Matata. The only thing I was sorry about was that I fixed it too late to really enjoy it on the amp. Luckily, today is a new day.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-09 10:49 AM (#535100 - in reply to #535095)
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arumako - 2017-05-09 8:13 AM

+1

Glad you got the electronics worked out. Perhaps a video?

Thanks, me too. Unfortunately, no video. At least I got a couple of photos.

Edited by DarenSavage 2017-05-09 10:50 AM
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-09 6:01 PM (#535101 - in reply to #531529)
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Ha ha! Well, that was a fun scare I gave myself. I plugged in the CU to play it on the amp, and...nothing. Again. What?! I really didn't want to have to tear into the pre-amp again. To be sure, I tested using Darth Ovation and the system worked. Then I wondered how the volume was set on the CU. Zero.

Once I turned up the volume on the guitar, I had guitar sounds coming from the amp. Yay!
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-05-09 8:00 PM (#535102 - in reply to #531529)
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@Daren - "Once I turned up the volume on the guitar...."

Daren... been there.. and as president and grand master of the International Bonehead Society, I graciously welcome you aboard :-)

Feel free to grab a chair and stand around with us.

Edited by Love O Fair 2017-05-09 8:23 PM
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arumako
Posted 2017-05-09 10:45 PM (#535103 - in reply to #535101)
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DarenSavage - 2017-05-09 8:01 AM

Ha ha! Well, that was a fun scare I gave myself. I plugged in the CU to play it on the amp, and...nothing. Again. What?! I really didn't want to have to tear into the pre-amp again. To be sure, I tested using Darth Ovation and the system worked. Then I wondered how the volume was set on the CU. Zero.

Once I turned up the volume on the guitar, I had guitar sounds coming from the amp. Yay!


That's funny! I've done that a bunch of times! Sorry to hear there's no chance for a video...I guess I'm just gonna have to get my very own "Savage" Ovation. BTW are you the Sith Lord of O?
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-10 10:10 AM (#535104 - in reply to #535103)
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Paul and I are meeting up with the guitar gang Friday night. I'll try to get some video of him playing his 1117.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-11 5:30 AM (#535114 - in reply to #535103)
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arumako - 2017-05-09 10:45 PM

Sorry to hear there's no chance for a video...I guess I'm just gonna have to get my very own "Savage" Ovation. BTW are you the Sith Lord of O?

My apolgiies, Arumako. I thought you were asking for a video of the pre-amp repair process. Here's a short clip of my Custom Ultra.



Ha ha! No, I'm just a guy with a couple Ovations.



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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-11 9:04 AM (#535115 - in reply to #535114)
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Nice clip.

Cool tuner. What's the brand?
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arumako
Posted 2017-05-11 9:06 AM (#535116 - in reply to #535114)
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DarenSavage - 2017-05-10 7:30 PM

My apolgiies, Arumako. I thought you were asking for a video of the pre-amp repair process. Here's a short clip of my Custom Ultra.


No, no...wasn't wanting to see Darth Ovation soldering loose wires on to a PCB! But thanks for the sound sample video...WOW! Your Custom Ultra sounds incredible...I'm sure your recording tools were relatively simple, but that resonance is something to behold.

I can tell I've totally underestimated the torrefied sound board. I kind of assumed that since my 1861 is over 20 years old, that a torrefied SSB would sound about as good, and I am not ashamed to say that my 1861 SSB sounds really really good. She's one of the few early X-braced builds, and she has a deep satisfying voice...especially for a SSB, but yours is kinda in a different class...if I'm not mistaken, Dan prefers light or extra light strings, so I suspect those are extra light Daddy 80/20s or Elixirs? The sustain is killer.

The video also clarifies what you all meant when you say your Custom Ultra prefers subtlety over hard aggressive playing. And how about that rosette? Together with the Zipflex purfling she is just stunning. What an inspiring conclusion to an awesome project!

You know what...with results like this, you can bet the Mother Ship has some torrefied projects either in the wings or in process. Incredible!

DanSavage - 2017-05-10 12:10 AM

Paul and I are meeting up with the guitar gang Friday night. I'll try to get some video of him playing his 1117.


Please, please! Looking forward to hearing moody, p.i.'s 1117 too.

Edited by arumako 2017-05-11 9:16 AM
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-11 10:46 AM (#535118 - in reply to #535115)
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DanSavage - 2017-05-11 9:04 AM

Nice clip.

Cool tuner. What's the brand?

Thanks. D'Addario NS Micro Acoustic Soundhole Tuner - Color Screen Black - $24.99 from Amazon

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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-11 10:57 AM (#535119 - in reply to #531529)
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Thanks arumako. Yes, Elixir extra light strings. As you can probably tell, the first part of the video is acoustic, the second part with the amp plugged in.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-11 11:05 AM (#535120 - in reply to #535119)
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The part with the amp plugged in was interesting because I could hear the delay.

The acoustic sound of the strings hit the camera's microphone a split second before the sound of the strings through the amp.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-12 11:27 AM (#535131 - in reply to #531529)
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I didn't heard the delay at the very end, but then my ears aren't very attuned.
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-12 1:30 PM (#535133 - in reply to #535131)
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I could hear it on the Johnny Cash piece.
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DarenSavage
Posted 2017-05-19 4:27 PM (#535236 - in reply to #531529)
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1979 Aspen AD-35 vs. 197? Ovation Custom Ultra

Here's a video of a quick comparison between the two guitars. They probably couldn't be more different; Dreadnought vs. Super Shallow Bowl.

Both are beautiful playing and sounding guitars, but to my untrained ears, the Custom Ultra has a little more clarity of sound than the AD-35.

Please don't mind the playing. It's just my version of struggling banjos.



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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-05-19 10:33 PM (#535240 - in reply to #531529)
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@Daren - "1979 Aspen AD-35 vs. 197? Ovation Custom Ultra"

Both are very nice guitars, but Ovation wins (again). Also sounds quite rich for a shallow. Pretty, too!

After listening for the second time, I'm curious.. what are the bracing patterns for the two?

Edited by Love O Fair 2017-05-19 10:38 PM
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DanSavage
Posted 2017-05-20 8:03 AM (#535242 - in reply to #535236)
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Nice video, Daren.

Al,
The AD-35 has Martin-style X-braces and the CU has Ovation K-5 braces, which is a variation of the A-brace pattern.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-05-20 9:33 PM (#535249 - in reply to #531529)
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Thanks, Dan.
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