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DanSavage
Posted 2016-12-07 6:30 PM (#531117 - in reply to #531116)
Subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Balladeer Waif



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moody, p.i. - 2016-12-07 4:22 PM

Dan, I've got an aftermarket case for Ovation deep bowls. No idea where I got it or what guitar was in it. It's empty now.

You can have it if you want it.


Thanks, Paul. I'll take it! I don't need it right away. It'll be for the 1111. Bring it with you the next time you come over.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-12-07 7:39 PM (#531119 - in reply to #531077)
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Will do....
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sandshark
Posted 2016-12-08 12:16 PM (#531147 - in reply to #531077)
Subject: RE: 1978 Deluxe Balladeer Waif


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Did some detailed analysis of the bowl today. Suffice to say it has "issues" Quite a bit of warping has occured along the top edge. Cannot be flexed out with pressure. Going to take an awful lot of work to get this right.Close to 1/8 in a couple spots. Hmmm, is it worth the effort? Especially with the busted bowl work?
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sandshark
Posted 2016-12-08 12:17 PM (#531149 - in reply to #531077)
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sandshark
Posted 2016-12-08 12:18 PM (#531150 - in reply to #531077)
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sandshark
Posted 2016-12-08 12:19 PM (#531151 - in reply to #531077)
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-12-08 7:11 PM (#531170 - in reply to #531077)
Subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Balladeer Waif



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Since it's a hand-laid bowl, you can perform a bowl-bend to fix the warping.

Basically, I would clamp the bowl as you've done, then apply heat in the form of IR heat lamps or a heat gun. I've done a bowl bend with a heat gun. IMO IR heat lamps would heat it more evenly.

It's going to have to be heated to ~250° before the epoxy reaches its TG temp. (TG = transitional glass temp = temperature where the epoxy becomes rubbery, once it cools it will take the new shape)

Edited by DanSavage 2016-12-08 7:13 PM
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sandshark
Posted 2016-12-09 9:48 AM (#531176 - in reply to #531170)
Subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Balladeer Waif


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Hi Dan,
Yeah, I have done warp removal before. Pretty time consuming, especially with the multiple warps and other problems. I am considering the time effort of repairing this run of the mill Balladeer vs the sale value after it is done. If I was dealing with a higher level Ovation, or a rare model it would make a difference. With the multiple warps there is a chance of loss of correct shape, so i would need to build an outline form. More time lost from other money making projects. I had a form years ago, but gave it to another luthier who was getting a lot of O repairs during the eighties. I had backed off of doing O work to concentrate on vintage other brands. Not doing as much now, getting older and lazier. LOL Guess I will have to make up my mind one way or the other. I do love my Ovations but can't keep every one I repair.
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