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ProfessorBB
Posted 2016-11-10 8:32 AM (#530727 - in reply to #530651)
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Stunning photos, and a very strong vibrometer measurement. That's the one takeaway I realized from my time with Mark's No. 43, the incredible duration of time the originals vibrate, perhaps 20% longer than my similar looking and built, but far newer OFC I model, albeit using relatively crude measurement techniques.
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-11-10 2:08 PM (#530730 - in reply to #530655)
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Nancy - 2016-11-04 12:39 PM HOLY BUCKETS!!! This will probably be the only time in my lifetime that I see one of these come up for sale! Congratulations to the Proud New Owner!

 

I am shocked you are trying to resist this one ... though you may have to sell off a few from the collection eh.

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AstroDan
Posted 2016-11-20 10:52 PM (#530821 - in reply to #530651)
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I was honored to play one at Bobbo's once. Way beyond my skills, but the ease of play made me better than normal. I swear the fret board wood/grain looked deep enough to put your hand into and felt like silk to the touch. Total beast! Pure power AND finesse. The best of any brand I've ever had in my hands, bar none, including a pre-war Martin...(about 3x the price)
Truly wonderful piece! Well worth the 15k
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Geostorm98
Posted 2016-11-21 3:20 PM (#530834 - in reply to #530712)
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I think cliff is right jay, pretty sure the originals were carved by hand. Maybe someone that was there can confirm? Far as punching the button on a CNC...best around back then was numerical control (NC). I don't recall seeing my first CNC in local manufacturing until 79-80; 

 

OT - It was a Wells Index vertical miller, had to go take a class to run it...the 'computer' was the size of a kitchen range that sat off to the side. You'd write a program for, say, a hole pattern and the computer would punch tape. Then you'd feed the tape into a reader to load the program. The thing broke down all the time, likely due to a combination of new technology combined with a good dose of operator error and confusion. Wells Index would send their technicians out in their official Wells Index uniforms for repair. It was my first insight into the world to come. Everyone knew that eventually these machines would improve and replace a lot of workers. Even those first CNC machines were so much faster...the handwriting was on the wall.

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Beal
Posted 2016-11-21 7:47 PM (#530837 - in reply to #530651)
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the originals were done on a pantograph. There was a master and the operator hand ran the guide over it back and forth and the other side with the cutter did the work. Same for the heels and pegheads. 15 is a reasonable price.
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alpep
Posted 2016-11-21 9:55 PM (#530839 - in reply to #530651)
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Beal gives his imprimatur
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stephent28
Posted 2016-11-21 11:25 PM (#530842 - in reply to #530651)
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That's a fancy thumbs up!
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Nancy
Posted 2016-11-22 12:40 PM (#530845 - in reply to #530837)
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Beal - 2016-11-21 7:47 PM

the originals were done on a pantograph. There was a master and the operator hand ran the guide over it back and forth and the other side with the cutter did the work. Same for the heels and pegheads. 15 is a reasonable price.


Fascinating!!! I would have loved to have watched that being made!!!
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-11-22 3:03 PM (#530849 - in reply to #530651)
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@Geostorm98 - "the 'computer' was the size of a kitchen range that sat off to the side."

I remember the days. We had couple of them at the A&P school I was at. In addition to the "kitchen range", we also had a a slew of file cabinets to hold the hundreds and hundreds of punch-hole tapes that were standardized for various cylinder heads, cams cranks, etc. Today you could put all of those tapes on a 1 GB SD card and still have enough space left over on it to store a couple dozen copies of War and Peace.
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Geostorm98
Posted 2016-11-22 3:57 PM (#530850 - in reply to #530837)
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Beal - 2016-11-21 8:47 PM the originals were done on a pantograph. There was a master and the operator hand ran the guide over it back and forth and the other side with the cutter did the work. Same for the heels and pegheads. 15 is a reasonable price.

Thanks Beal...and back to the item for sale. What a beauty, if only...

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elginacres
Posted 2016-11-22 5:09 PM (#530851 - in reply to #530651)
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41, 42, and 43 all seem to be brothers or sisters if you look at the production dates...still my favorite guitar is 43...even tho thanks to some friends here, I own a few of varying manufacturers'. 15k seems fair....but 43 is still NFS....besides, Professor has called dibbies....he just has to arm wrestle my daughter Sam. Been along time since posting...I'm on this side of the water for a while.
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-11-23 9:10 AM (#530856 - in reply to #530651)
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Oh come on Mark, if you owned #41 or #42 you would think one of THOSE was the best. Everybody thinks their pet is the cutest, right? We DO need to get together and play them side by side just for kicks. Hey, how about you and I go halfsies and we buy #41 so we could collectively say we own the Triplets ???
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elginacres
Posted 2016-11-23 12:20 PM (#530857 - in reply to #530651)
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Intriguing co-owner idea....Kinda like a time share?
I was comparing 43 to other guitars I have owned - I still contend the best sounding guitar is in Matt Smith, Phil Keaggy, or Brad Davis's Hands....I am guessing there is not a fret buzz worth of difference....43 is real high mileage - which I like. 43 is not really like a pet....it is more like a wife....treats me well - and puts up with all my crap too.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2016-12-03 6:10 PM (#531025 - in reply to #530651)
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What is the status? Sold? Just curious.
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Beal
Posted 2017-01-23 7:28 PM (#532239 - in reply to #530651)
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The originals were done on a pantograph duplicating machine. Done one at a time by hand. took an hour or so. The heels and peg heads were done the same way
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2017-01-24 3:22 AM (#532248 - in reply to #532239)
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Beal - 2017-01-23 5:28 PM

The originals were done on a pantograph duplicating machine. Done one at a time by hand. took an hour or so. The heels and peg heads were done the same way


The technology exists to do it the same-ish way but automate the heavy lifting and it's not as expensive as one would think. This link is to a consumer grade version...  http://www.wood-carver.com/unispecs.html     However, someone would have to want to buy the guitars after they were built... it always comes down to that.

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DetlefMichel
Posted 2017-01-24 11:03 AM (#532250 - in reply to #530697)
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jay - 2016-11-08 10:37 PM

I'm assuming the bridge was hand carved...any idea how long it would take to carve the bridge?


I would say 2 hours all in all. I did some similar, simpler carvings before and they were not much time consuming. And I could not work on a workbench, but had to do this on the guitar...I lov hand carving because it is never too perfect, you can see that it´s handmade. Is it that the people call "mojo"?

 

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Love O Fair
Posted 2017-01-24 3:11 PM (#532255 - in reply to #530651)
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Very cool, Detlef. I give it a definite thumbs up on the personal mojo.
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Nancy
Posted 2017-01-24 4:30 PM (#532259 - in reply to #532255)
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Love O Fair - 2017-01-24 3:11 PM

Very cool, Detlef. I give it a definite thumbs up on the personal mojo.


+1 Beautiful!
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2017-01-24 6:29 PM (#532265 - in reply to #532250)
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DetlefMichel - 2017-01-24 11:03 AM

jay - 2016-11-08 10:37 PM

I'm assuming the bridge was hand carved...any idea how long it would take to carve the bridge?


I would say 2 hours all in all. I did some similar, simpler carvings before and they were not much time consuming. And I could not work on a workbench, but had to do this on the guitar...I lov hand carving because it is never too perfect, you can see that it´s handmade. Is it that the people call "mojo"?

 




Nice job,I always loved the carved bridges on the custom legends,so what model did you do that on???
Do you ever worry about weakening the bridge by removing wood?

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DetlefMichel
Posted 2017-01-25 5:36 AM (#532271 - in reply to #530651)
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This one was a ´82 collector´s. I did it, too with a 1537. The first try was the fretboard end of a battered old 12string custom legend when I started the restoration. Before:

 

And after:

The carvings on the bidges were not very deep and did not effect the stability at all. The carved bridges on the Adamas guitars are much thinner. But the carved fretboard end was the best idea, it looks really nice and you won´t see it at first sight.

But enough from me now, the star of this party is the wonderful old Adamas

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