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doobie78
Posted 2016-10-20 3:48 AM (#529398)
Subject: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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Hi,

First of all, I tried to upload some photos here but failed so here is a link of HD photos of the guitar on my GoogleDrive account: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B42uL1Wzb2iHUGtTZE5rbUFCRW8

So I have an Adamas 2 1682-8 "wide neck" which is 47,6mm (1"7/8) instead of regular thiner 42,9mm (1"11/16).
Serial number is #1782 so this guitar was made in 1981.
I'm not the original buyer. As you can see on the photos, this Adamas is in perfect shape for its 35 years birthday. Electronics is fine with no "scratch" sounds. The only defect is on #0130 pic, a kind of white small mark.
Why do I want to sell it? Mainly because of the neck. I had a legend and a custom legend (Al di Meola) in the past and was used to thin neck. 
Well, I don't know the real value of this guitar. I know that "wide neck" were confidential at this time and not too many were produced. On Ebay, prices are just between 2000$ and 8000$ for Admas and I did not see any wide neck proposed. So as I have to put a price, I make it high and you'll tell me if it's (possibly) TOO high. I live in France and the overseas postage has to be considered if you're not in Europe.

So here's my "higher" price: 8000$

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doobie78
Posted 2016-10-20 4:21 AM (#529400 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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I forgot, the black case is not the original as brown cases were only available at this time.

Edited by doobie78 2016-10-20 4:22 AM
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alpep
Posted 2016-10-20 11:19 AM (#529406 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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Maybe you'll catch a carp.....
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stephent28
Posted 2016-10-20 12:34 PM (#529410 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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You need to look at "sold" items on eBay, not the listings that are listed with wishful thinking.
Yes, a wide neck is rare but that does not make it worth more as the majority feel the same way you do.
Not trying to be the price police but since you asked, you are way too high.
Just my 2cents coming from someone who does prefer the wider necks.
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doobie78
Posted 2016-10-20 1:59 PM (#529418 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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OK thank you. That's what I thought anyway.
Let's go for 5000$
Still interested by an exchange also.
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MWoody
Posted 2016-10-20 2:18 PM (#529419 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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doobie,
Nice pictures and that is a desirable guitar.
If you want to sell it sooner than later I would ask between $1,500.00 USD and $1,800.00 USD.

If you have time post it in multiple venues with a good description, clear photos and ask $3,500.00 and respond to any and all that contact you.

I'm old now and I don't mind being the price police... I hope this helps.
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stephent28
Posted 2016-10-20 3:33 PM (#529422 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Hey Woody
I was thinking more in line with $2000-2500 as being in the ballpark but it has been a while since I have really shopped Adamas/Ovations. When you own an original slothead and twin 6/12 2080 longnecks, TBH there is not much more from Ovation that one could possibly want.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-10-20 4:37 PM (#529424 - in reply to #529419)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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I'm old now and I don't mind being the price police... I hope this helps.


HERE are the Adamii on Reverb.
The most expensive one has been listed for a Year.

And here are the SOLD on eBay.

But feel free to ask for as much as you want.
Nowadays it seems like a buyers market.
I neglected to bid on a USA-made Long Neck Elite that just sold for $415
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red-twins
Posted 2016-10-20 6:04 PM (#529429 - in reply to #529424)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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. . I neglected to bid on a USA-made Long Neck Elite that just sold for $415

 

I did OMA, though there are already 5 in the house, but I am so fond of these Longnecks....

Fortunately, with my first offer I only went for 410$, and when I put in $415, Time had run out. I could have given it a higher bid, but on the other hand, it is just a DS 778 quite close to my latest one I bought two years ago from a guitar Shop in NYC...

And I would have had charges for Transport and customs.

 

But the price was really low.  BTW, the seller had a buy it now of I think it was $800, when he started the auction.

A guitar is always worth what a buyer is willing to pay. Not less, not more. 

 



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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-10-20 6:24 PM (#529431 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Kinda off topic...
Fortunately, with my first offer I only went for 410$, and when I put in $415, Time had run out.

I have learned the hard way not to just bid over the other bidders...
But to just bid the most that you are willing to pay.
Then not to worry about it.
Just because the winner only paid $415 doesn't mean that he didn't Bid $700.
But I thought that it was going to go up into the Thousands.

Back to the subject at hand ...
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doobie78
Posted 2016-10-21 1:47 AM (#529439 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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Thank you everyone for tips and links. I'm going to definitely set the price to 3500$.
Guitar is in excellent condition. No pocs or whatever. Electronics works fine no cracks or pops.
It's a "wide neck" model with 11/52 strings.
Photos are there: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B42uL1Wzb2iHUGtTZE5rbUFCRW8


Edited by doobie78 2016-10-21 1:59 AM
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bburg
Posted 2016-10-23 1:36 PM (#529467 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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What kind of electronics were built in this guitar?

Bernie
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alpep
Posted 2016-10-23 4:13 PM (#529468 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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Maybe a catfish
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-10-23 7:24 PM (#529470 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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@Arthur - "Just because the winner only paid $415 doesn't mean that he didn't Bid $700."

Not so sure what you mean by that.
If he bid $700 in the beginning as his "worth to him" price (a logic I fully understand), wouldn't he be compelled to honor his $700 bid even if the next lowest bid before his was only $415?? How could one person be both?
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MWoody
Posted 2016-10-23 7:39 PM (#529471 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Nope, on Ebay all you have to do is out bid the nearest bidder and that just enough amount becomes the highest bid standing. So you can win by 5$ while resetting the bid that someone must exceed ti take over.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-10-23 7:59 PM (#529472 - in reply to #529470)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Love O Fair - 2016-10-23 5:24 PM

@Arthur - "Just because the winner only paid $415 doesn't mean that he didn't Bid $700."

Not so sure what you mean by that.

The winning bidder won with $415 because you bid $410.
If you had bid $416 his bid would have automatically gone up to $421.
BUT, if they winner had previously only bid $417, and you bid $416... He still would have won.

What I am saying is that eBay has pre-set increments on how it raises bids.



I hope that was adequately confusing.
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Mike S.
Posted 2016-10-24 12:18 AM (#529475 - in reply to #529472)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Hi, OMA,
Pretty much. Yep, I'd say so. "Don't you just hate it when stuff like that happens?"
Mike S.
Ottawa, ON. CANADA.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-10-24 8:10 AM (#529478 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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@Arthur - "I hope that was adequately confusing."

Nope. Got it. You can probably tell that I'm not much of an Ebay user; hence, I was not aware that their incremental system has mandatory caps that you have to inch along with, be they automatic or manual. I thought you could just enter a number (any number) as long as it at least satisfied the next increment, though could also go as high as you want it too-- and if someone else wants to top it, they can, as long as it again satisfies the current increment, or, higher than said increment. That way you could just skip to the chase and cut out the drama along the way. Guess not.

However.. a question.. can you put in your highest desired bid amount and have it automatically up itself within the increments until it hits your maximum? Like if you bid a max of $700.. and the highest anyone else bids is $415, so it automatically bids you up to $420 and no one else bids further... and you end up saving $280. Does it at least work that way??

(Sorry to go so off-thread-topic with this.)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-10-24 2:07 PM (#529480 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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evilBay should pay me for this...

Yes LOF, you are correct.
You can bid a Thousand Dollars... But you don't pay a thousand dollars.
Your bid will increase according to the formula on that chart.
Also when you get into higher prices, you cannot just bid a penny more.
Your next bid must be as much as the next increment higher, or more.
So, you can still bid creative numbers like $444.44 provided that bid is more than the next increment.
But, if you had bid $444.44 three days ago, and someone bids $445 at the last minute...
They will still beat you provided that your competitor's bid was within the preset increments.

So, (and it took me a long time to understand this) Just bid what you think it is worth.
If you think that a DS778 is worth $1K, and you wish that you could get one for $700...
Bid $700 and eBay will automatically bid for you according to the increments on that chart.
So you won't have to pay the full $700 unless someone bids $699.

Meanwhile... Doobie has a nice Blue two-knobber Adamas for sale.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-10-24 3:08 PM (#529481 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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It's good to learn this before you start bidding on ebay. I bought a couple of Ovations that I didn't really intend to buy. The first was my first experience with ebay and I thought I was running up a bid on someone who was actively bidding against me, just like a live auction. I kept increasing the bid and then was surprised when he or she stopped and I "won" the Celebrity Deluxe. I also didn't know about all the different Ovation models. That's when I got into the OFC. I later traded it up, so I came out alright. My next ebay mistake was confusing an Ovation Ultra GS for an Ultra GP. I was the only bidder on the GS at the minimum bid. I still have that one and it's worth what I paid for it at least. Ebay can be really expensive if you don't know what you're doing.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-10-25 3:10 AM (#529487 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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Thank you Arthur and Mark. Makes sense now.
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MWoody
Posted 2016-10-25 8:32 AM (#529488 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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"Ebay can be really expensive if you don't know what you're doing."

And even more expensive if you "think" you know what you're doing... Many of us have accidently bought a guitar... or two..
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-10-27 10:38 PM (#529541 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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Went and peeked at the sold Adamii per OMA's link. And I was beyond flabbergasted!! First of all the 1681-9 which went for $1705 seemed a bit low in comparison to what Adamii have been going for lately. But then I saw those 1537 Elites and my mouth fell completely open. My chest is still bruised!! One went for $456 and and went for $531!!
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-10-27 10:41 PM (#529542 - in reply to #529398)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981


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That post went off automatically before I finished it. What on earth is going on with those Elites?? That is beyond unheard of!! Anybody have a clue?? I woulda bought em myself even though I already have one. Someone please enlighten this poor nerd!!!!
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2016-10-27 11:40 PM (#529544 - in reply to #529542)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1682-8 from 1981



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nerdydave - 2016-10-27 10:41 PM

That post went off automatically before I finished it. What on earth is going on with those Elites?? That is beyond unheard of!! Anybody have a clue?? I woulda bought em myself even though I already have one. Someone please enlighten this poor nerd!!!!


If you look at the listings both those elites are the same,someone didn't pay for there item,FYI that guitar is relisted again,read the details its players condition with repaired cracks,still a really cool guitar at a good price
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