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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-10-25 3:34 PM (#529496 - in reply to #528978)
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My first Ovation, a 1972 Artist was knocked down in price because an ear was knocked off. A friend fixed it the same way Dan is doing this one. I look at every Artist in SoCal on ebay to see if I can find it.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-10-25 5:58 PM (#529497 - in reply to #528978)
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I've especially been waiting for the headstock repair (that cube you had stuck on there was cracking me up). I, too, was thinking that you would have to find a specific angle for the end grain to match with the way the traditional Ovation shape is carved (I call it the Ovation "cow catcher" since it's kinda-sorta shaped like a cow catcher on an old locomotive nose). Anyway, I am, as usual, bowled-over impressed by your results! Very nice match!
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-10-25 7:36 PM (#529501 - in reply to #529496)
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Thanks, guys. I'm just glad I was able to get a piece that more-or-less matched so I can keep moving forward. It was getting really old to glue on a cube, grind it down to shape, then find out the grain didn't match. Like I say, I'd done it three or four times. (Ugh!)

moody, p.i. - 2016-10-25 1:34 PM

My first Ovation, a 1972 Artist was knocked down in price because an ear was knocked off. A friend fixed it the same way Dan is doing this one. I look at every Artist in SoCal on ebay to see if I can find it.


Ha! I keep looking on Craigslist, etc. trying to find my first car, a 1967 390 c.i. Mustang coupe. It looked like this:

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0018g
Posted 2016-10-25 8:04 PM (#529502 - in reply to #528978)
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Factory air? Pretty rare on one of those.

Enjoying your Ovation projects-thanks for documenting.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-10-25 10:39 PM (#529505 - in reply to #528978)
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I once went looking for my first car, too (very clean '65 Chevelle SS), and I eventually found it. Wish I hadn't, though, because you can't un-see things that turn ugly.
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0018g
Posted 2016-10-26 12:34 AM (#529506 - in reply to #528978)
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Still have mine-a '76 Camaro RS in yellow with a 4 speed.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-10-26 9:18 AM (#529510 - in reply to #529497)
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Thanks!

Love O Fair - 2016-10-25 3:58 PM

I've especially been waiting for the headstock repair (that cube you had stuck on there was cracking me up). I, too, was thinking that you would have to find a specific angle for the end grain to match with the way the traditional Ovation shape is carved (I call it the Ovation "cow catcher" since it's kinda-sorta shaped like a cow catcher on an old locomotive nose). Anyway, I am, as usual, bowled-over impressed by your results! Very nice match!
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arumako
Posted 2016-10-26 10:23 AM (#529511 - in reply to #529501)
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DanSavage - 2016-10-25 9:36 AM

Thanks, guys. I'm just glad I was able to get a piece that more-or-less matched so I can keep moving forward. It was getting really old to glue on a cube, grind it down to shape, then find out the grain didn't match. Like I say, I'd done it three or four times. (Ugh!)

moody, p.i. - 2016-10-25 1:34 PM

My first Ovation, a 1972 Artist was knocked down in price because an ear was knocked off. A friend fixed it the same way Dan is doing this one. I look at every Artist in SoCal on ebay to see if I can find it.


Ha! I keep looking on Craigslist, etc. trying to find my first car, a 1967 390 c.i. Mustang coupe. It looked like this:

Just amazing work on the headstock repair Dan. So cool that the Mother Ship was willing to send some scraps your way. A great idea for sure, but the amount of care and detail that is going into this rebuild is just incredible! You get the Patient Luthier Award for this one! Hope you find that '67 Mustang - best year!

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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-07 7:01 PM (#530680 - in reply to #528978)
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Updates have been a little slow in coming because there's only so much that can be said about repeatedly spraying clear on, letting it dry, then sanding it off.

To make the head stock logo look more authentic, I bought a metallic gold cartridge for my Alps 5000 printer. Here's what the new logo looks like in metallic gold. IMO, it does look better than the gold foil. The later logo with the black outline needs to be done in gold foil, but these earlier logos used metallic gold.

I decided to experiment with the metallic gold cartridge and print up an early foil label. Wow! I've cracked the code on how to get a printer to create a faux foil label and have it look like a foil label from all angles. The resampling process to reduce the size of the images introduced a graininess to the texture of the label. This is an artifact of the image processing and is not present in real life. In real life, this looks like a foil label.

Here's a slightly different angle. Notice how the sheen on the label changes.

Here's a shallower angle.

And a shallower angle still.

The cool thing about this printing process is that the raised lettering always keeps the 3D effect and I'm able to insert any model number I want. I'm going to order a silver metallic cartridge so I can re-do the label I already stuck down to the inside of the bowl. It'll be a bit of a pain, but the results are worth it.

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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-11-07 8:29 PM (#530681 - in reply to #528978)
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Very nice on both counts! I've never worked with metallic or foil printing on a home printer, so I am curious as to how the logo image comes off the printed page. Since it prints as a positive, does it simply peel off and attach as one piece directly onto the headstock? Is it adhesive on the back? If so, it would be kinda cool to be able to sport them on other things as well.. studio glass, car window, guitar strap, etc.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-08 8:22 AM (#530685 - in reply to #528978)
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Thanks.

The head stock logo is printed on water-slide decal paper -- the same kind as used on plastic model car and airplane kits.

These wouldn't be very good candidates for sticking on the surfaces you mention because they're not waterproof. A couple of years ago, I drew an Ovation and an Adamas logos and created files that can be used to cut out vinyl stickers, which do work for the surfaces you mentioned.

Here's the logos shown cut out.



Here's the Ovation logo stuck down on my RoadRunner case.



If you want to use them, here's the links to the files. You should be able to take the .EPS files to any printer and they can cut them out of any color vinyl you want.

Adamas.pdf
Adamas.eps

Ovation.pdf
Ovation.eps

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arumako
Posted 2016-11-08 9:04 AM (#530687 - in reply to #528978)
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WOW! Amazing. I'm going to need the O logo for my iDea Rebuild. Thanks Dan! Your foil label is incredible! This 1111 is going to be about as authentic as you can get. Really impressive stuff!
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-21 8:36 AM (#530825 - in reply to #528978)
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The neck and head stock finishing is done.

Gold foil logo.



Back of neck.

Back of head stock.

Next job is to finish the top, which I've already started.

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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2016-11-23 12:28 PM (#530859 - in reply to #528978)
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Great work as usual, Dan. That Alps label looks nifty.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-24 8:02 AM (#530880 - in reply to #528978)
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Thanks, Jonmark. I actually had several logo decals that didn't work. Turns out the problem was the brand of decal paper I was using. Once I went back to my tried and true brand, the logo decal went on like I expected.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-27 7:29 AM (#530917 - in reply to #528978)
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Moving right along. Top is finished and polished.

Bridge masking removed.

Bridge glued and clamped. I'll pull the clamps off this afternoon, then glue on the rosette.

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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-28 1:23 PM (#530932 - in reply to #528978)
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Bridge is done. Rosette is glued. I've done a touch-up to the binding/body joint. After it's dry, I'll glue the nut and adjust the fit of the saddle. Then, it's time to mount the tuners and string `er up and see how it sounds.

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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-11-28 7:23 PM (#530938 - in reply to #528978)
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Another extraordinary product from the Dan lab! I have always had a partiality for the older -4 naturals, but also have a definite 'love-o-fair' with my only sunhurst, a '81 1112 CB. Your eye and taste are obviously well dialed in for wood selections in natural grain presentation; though I'm curious if you ever do restorations with new top wood finished in a burst.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-29 9:33 AM (#530945 - in reply to #528978)
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Hi Al,

Thanks for the kind words. No, I've never done a burst on a guitar. (I've done numerous bursts on model airplanes, but that's a different subject entirely)

I do a burst someday, but that would only be if someone for whom I was restoring a guitar specifically requested it. I used to have a `96 1719 CL with a burst, but I sold it.
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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-11-29 6:41 PM (#530959 - in reply to #528978)
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@DanSavage - "I've done numerous bursts on model airplanes...."

Hmmm.. for some reason the term "impacted with terrain" is going through my mind right now.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-11-29 8:36 PM (#530961 - in reply to #530959)
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Love O Fair - 2016-11-29 4:41 PM

@DanSavage - "I've done numerous bursts on model airplanes...."

Hmmm.. for some reason the term "impacted with terrain" is going through my mind right now.


Ha hahahahahahaha!!

Yeah. That's one of the 'aspects' of model building that got me out of the hobby.

There's an expression or two for that hobby.

'If you haven't crashed, you haven't flown.'
'There's two types of model airplanes, those that have crashed and those that will.'
'Model airplane crashes: it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.'

Imagine, you've finished your dream guitar. You walk out on stage to play it for the first time. Then, inexplicably, in the middle of your opening piece, you raise it over your head and smash it on the floor like Pete Townsend.

That's model airplane flying. You never know how many flights a model has in it. Some last for years. Others, are destroyed on their maiden voyage.

Guitars last much longer.

 

 

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DanSavage
Posted 2016-12-01 6:31 PM (#530993 - in reply to #528978)
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All done. As usual, it sounds every bit as good as it looks.

 

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DanSavage
Posted 2016-12-01 6:32 PM (#530994 - in reply to #528978)
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And, a shot of the two stable-mates together.

Oh, Pa-ul...

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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-12-01 6:48 PM (#530995 - in reply to #528978)
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Absolutely superb! Well done Dan.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-12-01 9:36 PM (#530998 - in reply to #530995)
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BanjoJ - 2016-12-01 4:48 PM

Absolutely superb! Well done Dan.


Thanks, Paul.
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