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Oddball
Posted 2016-08-31 11:38 PM (#528565)
Subject: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?


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Ok, i know that the gorgeous kauri and other Celebrity tops are a pretty laminate over some (hopefully) half decent cut of spruce. And that the combo equals a less than stellar tone. But i wonder if the same is true of the various Collectors series, for example the 1990 model with a birdseye maple top. Is this top a real, single piece of maple or laminate? Andif the latter, would the sound "suffer" (for lack of a better word) accordingly?
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Beal
Posted 2016-09-01 8:53 AM (#528569 - in reply to #528565)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?



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Yes, hence the term panelmaster
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-09-01 9:10 AM (#528570 - in reply to #528565)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?


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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah
But the Adamas is a laminate top? And they sound great. What's is different here??
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-09-01 10:06 AM (#528571 - in reply to #528565)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?


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I traded a Celebrity Deluxe for a 99 Collector with a gorgeous bubinga top. When I first played the 99, I thought it didn't sound as good as the Celebrity, but because it looked so good, I convinced myself that my ears were lying to me. I thought it had to be the strings, because they both had mid-depth bowls and the same shape. It took me a while to accept the fact that the dense bubinga panel just wouldn't open up to a nice full sound. I sold it to someone who was convinced that it was the best sounding of all my Ovations and Adamas. He later admitted that he had let his eyes do the listening. A dense wood, especially combined with glue, just doesn't vibrate as well as a softer wood like spruce or cedar. The carbon fiber tops on Adamas guitars are different. They are very thin and vibrant.
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Beal
Posted 2016-09-01 10:46 AM (#528574 - in reply to #528565)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?



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The Adamas goes to 11. That's why they are better.
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Monttexan
Posted 2016-09-01 10:55 PM (#528584 - in reply to #528574)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?


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Beal - 2016-09-01 9:46 AM

The Adamas goes to 11. That's why they are better.


Pretty obvious once you point it out like that.....

11 is always better!
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Cripple Rick
Posted 2016-09-03 6:56 PM (#528623 - in reply to #528565)
Subject: Re: pretty tops - not so pretty sound?



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I have 'almost' convinced myself to keep my 2078AX-BCB rather than buy a new C2078AXP-AF Okume Feather that I am lusting after. It seems that my guitar has everything except the bling on the soundboard of the Okume Feather. From this thread, it looks like the veneered top of the Okume might deaden the sound? Any thoughts? Thanks to all.....
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