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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | OK, Brad (Slipkid's) story about how the Fishman sales staff uses Ovations as examples of a "really bad guitar" sound really got to me..... I play Os because I LOVE what I heard on a few milestone recordings like... "My Goal's Beyond" J. McLaughlin "World Sinfonia" Al Di Meola What is your example of RIGHTEOUS OVATION SOUND on record? I wanna make a list and send up Fishman's snout. | ||
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330 Location: ms | Tim Rogers "Small Town America" | ||
PEZ |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111 Location: Nashville TN. | Tell them to listen to my 1719 & D-28 side by side, See my other post. | ||
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | From the archive on the Pat Metheny interactive site:- User: Dave Dewey Subject: Ovation Nylon String Question: Hi Again Pat! I was somewhat surprised back in the Eighties to see you playing an Ovation "Classical" onstage. It seems many "guitar purists" and luthiers tend to look down on Ovations for a variety of real and imagined reasons. I like Ovations for a number of reasons: they seem to be well-built and well-tempered, they are very well behaved through a PA/monitor system, and you can set up the action to be very fast. The only "bad" thing I can say is that they don't have that deep, "woody" Martin/Guild/Taylor sound. I can only assume you have to be careful about appearing to endorse a certain manufacturer in this forum, but can you tell us what it was you liked and disliked about the Ovation? Thanks again Pat...hope you have (or had) a great holiday! Pat's Answer: hi dave, i am always kind of amazed when i hear people put down ovations as well - to me they are more than good instruments. they have a very particular sound, are generally very well intonated (i find this often to be a problem, even on very expensive handmade instruments), and they are virtually indestructable. i always have one laying around the house just to try things on - and if i can get it to sound good on there, it usually translates well to whatever axe it ends up on in the end. So who ya gonna believe? The Fish-man or The Man? | ||
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Anything by AlStewart/PeterWhite from the mid 70's to late 80's. | ||
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225 Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by cliff: My personal favorite is "Rhymes In Rooms". The Ovations really shine on that one.Anything by AlStewart/PeterWhite from the mid 70's to late 80's. | ||
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | THAT!!! . . is the one to own!!! | ||
Taylor Player |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | Anything by the Wilson Sisters from the 80's! God I loved Nancy with a guitar in her hands! | ||
stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Bitter Blue by Cat Stevens. | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Also 'Moonshadow' by Cat Stevens 'Danny's Song' by Loggins and Messina Intro to 'Crazy on You' by Heart 'Mediterranean Sundance' by Al Dimeola ... | ||
Arnaud |
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Joined: March 2006 Posts: 269 Location: Nîmes, south of France | Marcel Dadi 'Lights up Nashville' | ||
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | See, the problem I have with all of the above is they all sound like a plugged-in guitar. Nothing wrong with that, but that's what it is and none of them really excite me. To me piezo tone is a compromise I have to deal with to play loud, and Ovation is the best solution I have found to that end. The best recorded Ovation sound you wouldn't really be aware of, because it would be made with microphones and a good engineer, and would just sound like a really good acoustic guitar. We all know Ovation are cabable of making acoustic guitars that can compete with the best of them, the Fishman guy was using a stereotype to make a point. Get over it. | ||
PEZ |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111 Location: Nashville TN. | Chapin Taxi Live Any Croce on the Ovations I saw Roy Clark absolutely amaze me on TV show in the early 80s. Might have been an Adamas. He was thew guy on Hee Haw It did not realize how good he really is. | ||
PEZ |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111 Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Paul Templeman: In rooms where it made a difference, See, the problem I have with all of the above is they all sound like a plugged-in guitar. Nothing wrong with that, but that's what it is and none of them really excite me. To me piezo tone is a compromise I have to deal with to play loud, and Ovation is the best solution I have found to that end. The best recorded Ovation sound you wouldn't really be aware of, because it would be made with microphones and a good engineer, and would just sound like a really good acoustic guitar. We all know Ovation are cabable of making acoustic guitars that can compete with the best of them, the Fishman guy was using a stereotype to make a point. Get over it. I have used an EV ND257 mic on slightly in addition to op24. It worked very well. | ||
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 1132 Location: Parrish, FL | I'm dating myself a little here, but I seem to recall Roy Clark on HeeHaw in the late 60's. He was a fixture there up until the show stopped broadcasting. Blues | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | "My Goal's Beyond" (J. McLaughlin) is pure acoustic. That Balladeer wasn't even wired! And, no, PT, it does not sound "plugged" in or piezo. Sound Imaging technology is phony: wax food, silicone tits, mohair toupee, socks in the jock. I will not get over it. I NURSE my anger. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | My mistake, I should have said "most" sound like a plugged-in guitar. Either way, I agree with you, I'm far from convinced by current sound imaging techology | ||
schroeder |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | Nobody mentioned Bob Marley. | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Bob Marley | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | happy now?? | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | My 2 cents: Unplugged 74 Legend on "OVATION LULLABY" = 2nd button at top of "guitarsoffire.com" (link below). I'm a clutz at recording, but the sound of the old box comes through. | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Fer me nuthin' touches 'Cogings Glory' - for that matter, the whole 'Guitar For Mortals' LP by the talented Mr. Legg. | ||
PEZ |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 3111 Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by BluesSailor: It started in 1969 and ended in 1993 I'm dating myself a little here, but I seem to recall Roy Clark on HeeHaw in the late 60's. He was a fixture there up until the show stopped broadcasting. Blues It was a special I saw him. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Jeff W.: It's all a question of taste. As much as I admire Legg's technical prowess, I've always thought his tone, especially the tone he got when he was using Adamas, really sucked.Fer me nuthin' touches 'Cogings Glory' - for that matter, the whole 'Guitar For Mortals' LP by the talented Mr. Legg. | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Paul Templeman: Well, you're a "Fox Bummer"It's all a question of taste... the tone he got when he was using Adamas, really sucked. | ||
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