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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-13 9:28 AM (#525915 - in reply to #525909)
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Got it!
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-13 8:34 PM (#525926 - in reply to #524970)
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Bridge is glued down.



As is the rosette. I'll let all this cure until tomorrow, then string it up and check the setup, which may need adjusting.

Paul,
Do you have a preference as to set-up? (high, low, etc.?)

 



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Love O Fair
Posted 2016-06-13 10:46 PM (#525928 - in reply to #524970)
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I swear, Dan, if you were to rent a meeting room for a Saturday at any given hotel in SoCal, and do nothing but just stand there with a slide show and answer luthier questions, you'd sell out. Let us know when tickets are available.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-13 11:20 PM (#525929 - in reply to #524970)
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Dan, I'm good with a medium height. The strings I left with you are hard tension which should work well with that. I like a balance between the action and dynamics of the guitar. Higher action means more volume and balls. Lower action is easier to play. Let's go with the middle ground.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-13 11:20 PM (#525930 - in reply to #524970)
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And that last picture is just beautiful! I like the stripe......

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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-14 1:07 PM (#525942 - in reply to #524970)
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Paul,

Sounds good. I'll be stringing it up later tonight. I'm looking forward to hearing how it sounds. :D

Dan
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-14 1:55 PM (#525943 - in reply to #524970)
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Me too!
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-14 10:06 PM (#525960 - in reply to #524970)
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All done. It sure is pretty. I need to fine-tune the setup.

IMO, the strings that are on it help make it bass-strong and treble-weak, which is unbalanced. I'll look at the string diameters and put some different strings with a little larger diameter treble.



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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-06-14 10:31 PM (#525962 - in reply to #524970)
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Nice!
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jay
Posted 2016-06-14 10:56 PM (#525963 - in reply to #525960)
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Daniel!!!

That top is so rich! Very nice job! It is just an awesome looking O. Once again you have killed it. You should be extremely proud. Paul is probably salivating (more than usual). 

For brighter trebles...you might try Savarez New Crystal Corum's... their trebles have a pretty good rep at being bright.



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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-14 11:00 PM (#525965 - in reply to #524970)
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I'll probably buy a set. In the meantime Dan, leave it the way it is. I like a bass response.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-15 11:10 AM (#525972 - in reply to #524970)
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Thanks, Art.

Jay,
Thanks! It's not without its flaws, but overall I'm happy with how it turned out.

Paul,
Will do. See you soon. :D
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Damon67
Posted 2016-06-15 11:26 AM (#525973 - in reply to #524970)
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nice
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marenostrum
Posted 2016-06-15 12:26 PM (#525978 - in reply to #524970)
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Wow Dan.... another great job completed !
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-06-15 1:20 PM (#525979 - in reply to #524970)
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Beautiful job again! It would be interesting to compare it with a 1113 with a cedar top.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-15 3:51 PM (#525985 - in reply to #525979)
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Thanks, Damon and Riccardo.

Mark,
Yes, it would be interesting to compare the two especially since this one has the same brace pattern.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-06-15 8:03 PM (#525993 - in reply to #524970)
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Stunning! Great work Dan. What's next?
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-15 8:59 PM (#525994 - in reply to #525993)
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Thanks, Paul.

Practice on the instruments I've already got, such as my guitars, banjo and mandolin.

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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-06-15 10:20 PM (#525998 - in reply to #525994)
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DanSavage - 2016-06-16 1:59 PM
Practice on the instruments I've already got, such as my guitars, banjo and mandolin.


Ah! Practice. Yes, I've heard of that. I might try it out soon.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-15 10:38 PM (#525999 - in reply to #524970)
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So Dan, you haven't made any comments on the sound.....
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arumako
Posted 2016-06-16 3:18 AM (#526004 - in reply to #525999)
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moody, p.i. - 2016-06-15 12:38 PM

So Dan, you haven't made any comments on the sound.....

+1

Wow Dan! You've really outdone yourself (again)! She is absolutely stunning...and the finish worked out really really beautifully. The grain is to die for! You really are a craftsman! So...then...how about it? Nylon strings, torrefied top...what's your take on the sound?
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-16 10:55 AM (#526010 - in reply to #526004)
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Thanks, Ken.

The bass strings sound really good. The treble sounds good too, but is a little thin. I was playing it again last night and by adjusting my style (attack) I can compensate for it. Brighter treble strings would help. Maybe a combination of two styles of strings --mellow bass and bright treble.

It could be that the deep bowl is really accentuating the bass response and weakening the treble. My 1624, which is a shallow bowl sounds more balanced. The bass response is pretty equal to the treble. At first I thought it might be that the 1624 strings were thicker, but I used digital calipers and the strings are the same diameter on both guitars.

All in all, I'm really pleased with how it turned out. It's got a few flaws, but the good far outweighs the bad.

BTW, Paul, of all days, I left my cell phone at home today. So, let me know here which day you'll be stopping by to pick it up.

Edited by DanSavage 2016-06-16 11:02 AM
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-16 11:04 AM (#526012 - in reply to #524970)
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I should add that I'm even more convinced of the value of using torrefied wood for guitars. I will never use anything but that for the guitars I rebuild.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2016-06-16 11:45 AM (#526013 - in reply to #524970)
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I might be able to swing by tonight. Gotta spend the afternoon in San Berdoo and then come back in the early evening. I'll touch base with you after about 6 pm.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-06-16 2:52 PM (#526026 - in reply to #524970)
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Sounds good.
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