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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-04 11:37 PM (#521908)
Subject: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia

BFLG to the rescue!  I hope.

I was at a gig last night, my ute was on a double Hercules stand when someone pulled a lead and the whole thing fell over.  My ute fell face down on the floor!  I said Oh My! or words to that effect.

A small section of binding on the fretboard came off, which I found and glued back today.  However, there was a rattle that concerned me.

I opened the inspection hatch and felt the braces and two braces have come partially loose for about 100 to 150mm at one end.  Roughly the sections within the red circle.

It should be fairly easy to glue them back, but before I do I thought it best to check what glue would be best to use.  



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seesquare
Posted 2016-02-05 10:25 AM (#521917 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire		Dan?
I'm thinkin', anything that will wick under the braces, will probably do the job. Just clamp the braces, with a couple of strong magnets- one on the top, one inside. May need to make a metal caul, if that's your method.
Well, my $0.02, anyway.......
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-05 11:23 AM (#521919 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.


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Location: Boise, Idaho		I think FlySig had a similar problem with a Ute and had it redone at the Mothership.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-02-05 12:02 PM (#521920 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Pueblo West, CO		I'd use thin CA. I'm a Zap fan. (Pacer Technologies - same guys who make ZPoxy)

It will wick completely under the brace. Then, use some Zip Kicker (accelerant) to cure the glue.

Basically, just lay the guitar face-down on something like a bath towel that will support the top to keep it from deflecting.

Press down on the brace to keep it in contact with the top. Because of the small size of the hole, you might have to fashion a clamp to go between the back of the top and the bowl to keep the brace pressed against the top.

Then, run some thin CA along the edge of the brace. Not too much.

Once the glue is wicked, spray some Zip Kicker to cure the glue.

Leave the clamp in place for 5 minutes or so.

The brace should be good to go.

The main thing to remember is you don't want to use too much glue. Just enough to wet the glue joint, but not so much that it runs all over the inside of the guitar.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-05 3:30 PM (#521923 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia		Thanks very much for the advice guys.

Returning it to the mothership from Australia isn't practicle, so I'll do the repair myself.

I'll chase up some thin CA and kicker, thanks Dan.

Here's a clamp I made for a repair on my 1614 Folklore. It should do the trick.



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arumako
Posted 2016-02-05 11:52 PM (#521939 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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BanjoJ - 2016-02-04 1:37 PM

I was at a gig last night, my ute was on a double Hercules stand when someone pulled a lead and the whole thing fell over.  My ute fell face down on the floor!  I said Oh My! or words to that effect.

Ouch! My heart goes out to you BanjoJ! +1 on the ZAP stuff. Dan introduced me to the adhesive when I was fixing the bridge on my 1117-4. The CA stuff is excellent and if you ever need good strong epoxy, I've used the 30-Minute ZPoxy with great results (of course, you won't need that for this brace repair). I like your homemade bridge clamp too very cool! If the CA glue gets between the rubber clamp cover and the bowl and/or brace, it is going to adhere, so you might want to cover the clamp cover with some saran wrap. It just makes things easy to clean off, if glue gets on/into unintended areas. Good luck!
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-06 1:05 AM (#521942 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia		Thanks Ken.

I've done one brace and will do the second tomorrow. So far so good.

This is pretty small compared to what you and Dan do, but equally important to get a fantastic guitar back in playable condition.

It could have been much worse, so I'm grateful the damage was minor.
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arumako
Posted 2016-02-06 10:21 AM (#521951 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Yokohama, Japan		Those Ute's are few and far between! Good thing the damage was minimal and reversible with some simple CA glue! Hope it all works out for ya!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2016-02-07 2:13 PM (#521995 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Sydney, Australia		Ouch Paul! Hope it's all back and humming fine.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-07 4:45 PM (#522002 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia		It is Richard.

I glued the second loose brace yesterday, and checked it this morning and the rattles have gone and it sounds great.

Very happy.
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Eynowd
Posted 2016-02-07 9:42 PM (#522010 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Canberra, Australia		Pounds to peanuts that the words "Oh My!" were not what came out of your mouth.

Is the offender out of hospital yet?

Glad to hear the guitar turned out OK. I know how much that one means to you.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-08 6:58 PM (#522037 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia		All back to normal and playing like a dream.

Thanks people for the advice and support.

BFLG to the rescue - yet again. You gotta love the OFC.
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arumako
Posted 2016-02-10 6:56 AM (#522080 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: Re: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Yokohama, Japan		Congratulations BanjoJ! So glad that everything worked out well. I have a feeling a bigger project is not too far down the line for ya!
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-10 2:32 PM (#522085 - in reply to #521908)
Subject: RE: Some Damage To My Ute.



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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia		Thanks Ken.

I look constantly for a project Ovation to try something more ambitious. So far no luck, but I'll keep looking.

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