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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-11-10 12:24 PM (#75229)
Subject: Do you watch while you play???


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When you are playing a song do you have to watch the neck of your guitar to see what notes you are playing or can you just do it without watching where you are ?I cannot for the life of me play more than a couple of chords/leads or whatever without looking at the neck or I will miss notes.
It really pisses me off the Eddie Vanhalens and the Steve Howes of the world can be looking all over the place and making those funny faces and never have to look at their guitars and play fantastic.GWB
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BT717
Posted 2007-11-10 12:34 PM (#75230 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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Do you play 8-9 hours a day like they most likely did? Is playing guitar your full time job? Is playing guitar a "talent" you were born with?
Your answer to all the above is most likely no.
Therefore, you are most likely like 98% of us and have learned on your own, an hour or so a day(maybe 2-3 hrs a day).It's all about the time "we" put into it. The songs I have played for a few yrs, or have practiced the most I can play w/o looking. But, 80% of the songs I play I have to "glance down" once in a while to look. You are no different then most of us.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2007-11-10 12:43 PM (#75231 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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BT717 take a look at the Frank Zappa Steve Vai post and watch the video clip.Franks eyes never leave the fretboard and Im sure he plays more than an hour a day.Thats what I was refering to.GWB
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Steve
Posted 2007-11-10 1:44 PM (#75232 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I practise not watching, close my eyes but my head wants to turn anyway..I tend to watch the left hand on ascending scales and the right hand on descending scales...go figure..
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alpep
Posted 2007-11-10 1:50 PM (#75233 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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i watch the side dots
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cliff
Posted 2007-11-10 2:08 PM (#75234 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I watch the Tip Jar . . .
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Omaha
Posted 2007-11-10 2:34 PM (#75235 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I watch for hot babes flashing the stage.
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BT717
Posted 2007-11-10 2:35 PM (#75236 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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GWB,
Your original post mentioned The "VanHalens and Howes" of the world. I'm not by any means sayinig
Zappa and Via aren't in the same class, but, I used those two as my reference point when I made my original statement. I'm sure everyone looks now and the depending on how will they know a song. I'm also assumming that playing guitar is NOT you entire life. That's the point I was trying to make. WE need to look more then they do.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-10 2:44 PM (#75237 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???



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I look at the song chords on my monitor... Really.

No, I look just like everyone else, but I do close my eyes sometimes when practicing. Trying to do it without looking.
On my lead attempts, I look at the dots on the side of the neck.
Sometime I forget the chords, not how to do them, but where I am at in the song. Just like forgetting the words, y'know?
Damn Short-Term-Memory-Loss!
[what were we talking about?]
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-11-10 2:46 PM (#75238 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I watch TV.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-10 2:56 PM (#75239 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???



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Sometimes I watch just to see what my hand is going to do next.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-11-10 3:15 PM (#75240 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I have tried to play without watching; my right hand is fine, it's that uncooperative left one that isn't trustworthy on its' own. ;) :D
I have noticed one thing: when I don't look, I play even more noticeably awful than when I do, so I must confess I belong to "Fret-Watchers Anonymous," too. ("My name is Karen......")

--Karen
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Beggin
Posted 2007-11-10 4:32 PM (#75241 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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Hi Karen and welcome to the FWA. My name is Beggin..

Since I am a novice, is there any other choice? It's already bad enough when I look.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-11-10 4:35 PM (#75242 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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jose feliciano doesn't watch his hands or the frets.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-11-10 4:46 PM (#75243 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I look but don't fixate. I find I tend to "listen" more when I'm not looking, and hence play better. However, I usually look if I'm changing position etc... It's also pretty hard to sing and look at the neck.... so again, just glance once in awhile then I need to.

When I gigged I used put a small arrow made of on tape on the floor pointing to the front of the stage. It was just a symbol to remind me "that's where the paycheck is coming from" or "They came to see you and be entertained, if they wanted to just listen, they'd be at home listening to the stereo." It meant other appropriate phrases to me, but a simple small Arrow (3-pieces of duct tape) was all the reminder I needed. Sometimes I drew one up the side of the setlist, and taped that to the floor. Same idea.

But as most have said... if you practice not looking, you'll get to where you look when you need to look. Much like touch-typing, or the piano... most folks I see, still glance at the keyboards,... they just don't fixate more than needed.
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Beal
Posted 2007-11-10 5:04 PM (#75244 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???



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Lately I've been watching my right hand. BUT, where I sit in the music room is rignt across from the lower part of the wall where the Nationals hang and there are mirrors there, so I'm watching the right hand in the mirror. The interesting thing is that while it is going in the regular strum pattern there are extra notes from the thumb and forefinger moving, kinda like a double time thing.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-11-10 5:13 PM (#75245 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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Miles, try looking when you hit the "Add Reply" button.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-11-10 5:20 PM (#75246 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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normally i try not to look on the neck when i play. i just sometimes look at it when i play "bad" note and i wonder "why the hell i did play that thing?"
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2007-11-10 6:36 PM (#75247 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I look for the exit.
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gh1
Posted 2007-11-10 7:45 PM (#75248 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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I definitely and consciously look at my hands. My fretting fingers have a mind of their own. They move way too far from the fretboard or tense up in sympathetic tension. I watch for all those times and then slow it WAY down and focus on keeping the fingers where they are supposed to be -- close to the fretboard and relaxed.

I think i catch a lot of bad habits that way. However, once i've trained the correct muscle memory into my fingers i still watch them but not as intently.

Practice does not make perfect -- perfect practice makes perfect.

_____
gh1
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-11-10 8:54 PM (#75249 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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Originally posted by Omaha:
I watch for hot babes flashing the stage.
I wanna play in Jeff's band...

(ok, maybe roadie...)
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-11-10 10:14 PM (#75250 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???



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Originally posted by cliff:
I watch the Tip Jar . . .
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Old Tele man
Posted 2007-11-10 10:15 PM (#75251 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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...I watch both the neck markers as well as my fingers...I play by "position" not by "feel" since I play many different guitars.
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G8r
Posted 2007-11-10 10:30 PM (#75252 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???


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If I didn't look at my fretting hand I'd be too distracted by the girls flashing Jeff.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-10 11:36 PM (#75253 - in reply to #75229)
Subject: Re: Do you watch while you play???



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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Sometimes I watch just to see what my hand is going to do next.
Wabbit, we know what you do with your hands :eek: ...

Now turn off the video and slowing walk away
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