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Northcountry
Posted 2007-11-16 9:10 PM (#74188 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice
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Have an Adamas 1 I am thinking of parting with. You'll never want for another once you get your hands on one. Email me. Fair Price, excellent condition and the sound is as good as they come. I'll take a few shots later tonight.


Randy
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-11-16 10:08 PM (#74189 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice
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Sorry got a bunch of requests for the model number. Time had elapsed to edit. Figured I better post this to save the confusion.
1687-7

Randy
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Beggin
Posted 2007-11-16 10:48 PM (#74190 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by dobro:
I have even heard it whispered in the streets that SOME like it better that the UTE!!
Blasphemer!
:eek:

Hope you enjoy the new Adamas! Should be like butta in your hands.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-16 11:09 PM (#74191 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by dobro:
I have even heard it whispered in the streets that SOME like it better that the UTE!!
That's absolutely true. 12 fret non-cutaways are a niche guitar that some people just don't like. To each their own.

Dave
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Beggin
Posted 2007-11-16 11:24 PM (#74192 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Dave, I only use three, maybe four frets. Why do I need more?! :D ;)
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PEZ
Posted 2007-11-17 1:47 AM (#74193 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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ditto call AL
he good to deal with
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Akami
Posted 2007-11-18 12:43 PM (#74194 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by Tupperware:
To each their own.

Dave
This really sums up my feelings about all Adamas models and preferences and apparently I'm one of the few who doesn't feel the SMT and CVT smooth tops are junk in the world of Adamas.

Definitely my favorites do happen to be my textured tops but I played my SMT here in Tokyo last night and loved what it did for me in my 3 hours onstage.

Will be using it again on Tuesday and a couple more times next month before leaving it a friends house and not seeing it again until next year.

Anyway I wish there were less general condemnation of the smooth tops and more of an atmosphere of acceptance of the fact that they still remain Adamas guitars.

One final note is that anyone coming to Japan should take the time to look around because I have seen two incredibly rare Adamas (yes, both textured) in the last couple days.

One of them is a Teal II with darker than normal epaulets and the other has Charlies signature inside with a date of either Jan '76 or '78 and is listed as a '77!

It's got a brownish finish with no sparkles.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-18 1:05 PM (#74195 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by Tupperware:
To each their own.
I was only referring to 12 fret vs. 14 fret.

Dave
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vision
Posted 2007-11-18 1:15 PM (#74196 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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This Adamas II slothead doesn't sound bad :D

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=uGptJu1KZus
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-18 4:31 PM (#74197 - in reply to #74138)
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That's an outstanding guitar...
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stephent28
Posted 2007-11-18 8:03 PM (#74198 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Ignorance here....when did they make an Adamas II slothead?

and isn't that one of our OFC buddies from Jerome's neck of the world?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-18 8:37 PM (#74199 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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It was a custom job. Read about it here ---

http://www.ovationgallery.com/
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-18 9:08 PM (#74200 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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That's Adamasplayer (Pascal) who is a good friend of Jerome and was kind enough to invite me to his home outside Paris. He is a VERY good player. The Adamas II Slothead guitar belongs to Jerome. It was previously mine and I had it built that way with the 1-3/4 wideneck slotted headstock and FD14 electronics. I miss that guitar very much, but it is comforting to know that it is in the collection of Jerome.

Dave
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dobro
Posted 2007-11-18 9:46 PM (#74201 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Electronics: that word scares me. Take my ADII 1769 Custom Legend. A beautiful guitar. But never came close to my old 1117 PLUGGED IN. Tried three retrofits (two PROs one STUDIO).

So as I wait on the edge of my seat for my new 1581-5 reissue I'm wondering: what will the electronics do to the righteous (as promised) textured-top-as-speaker-cone sound? Wrote Dear Abbey. She did not help.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-18 10:49 PM (#74202 - in reply to #74138)
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Dobro, how do you plug in a 1117 which is an acoustic only Legend?
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-11-19 12:26 AM (#74203 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Originally posted by vision:
This Adamas II slothead doesn't sound bad :D

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=uGptJu1KZus
It's an old Lady and my favorite guitar!!!
Surely the easiest guitar I've ever played and it sounds so good.
The video was recorded with an old non digital camera and of course the sound was altered by the compression of the file.
I don't know why Ovation hadn't built Adamas models with that slothead neck specification because it's the best neck I know!!

J :)
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Akami
Posted 2007-11-19 4:25 AM (#74204 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by Tupperware:
To each their own.
I was only referring to 12 fret vs. 14 fret.

Dave
I understood that and was simply commenting that it's a bit frustrating to see so little love for the smooth tops.

I mean, did Steve Lukather and Melissa Etheridge not have a choice when they decided to go with SMT's?

Apparently it's one of the most sacriligeous things that can be said here but I really think there is room in a world of individual tastes for the SMT or CVT to actually be a better choice some.

Not trying to argue even, but I love all my Adamas. ;)
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dobro
Posted 2007-11-19 8:22 AM (#74205 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Sleepy Bones: After a long consultation with Mr. Budny I opted for a Fishamn Matrix for the 1117 Legend. I gotta say that Fishman system kicks butt! However, I don't think its a Fishman v. OP Pro contest: Jeff Burns plays his Elite side-by-side with HIS Di Meola ADII 1769 and finds the same frustration: It's a matter of a very week high end (top strings above seventh fret) and an odd sort of muted dynamic overall. Gotta wonder about the "innovations" in bracing on that one.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-19 10:04 AM (#74206 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Dob, I'm not gonna argue with you about this as I'm not qualified, whereas you are truly a player! But I would make the observation that the Elite and the DeMiola both have the same type of bracing, A or a variation of the A bracing. I'm surprised that there's a difference.

I've always thought that it would be interesting to get a whole bunch of different Ovations/Adamii in a room and do a sound comparison. Mostly when we get all of our guitars together, we're too busy having fun and playing.
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Akami
Posted 2007-11-19 11:11 AM (#74207 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I've always thought that it would be interesting to get a whole bunch of different Ovations/Adamii in a room and do a sound comparison. Mostly when we get all of our guitars together, we're too busy having fun and playing.
That would be a lot of fun, and much as I'd like to be playing, I think it could be great just listening to the differences from the sidelines too! :)
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dobro
Posted 2007-11-19 2:08 PM (#74208 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Thanks for the encouragment, Moody. Believe me, there is a huge difference, dunno why. If one of us is playing his ADII 1769 and the other has the old axe (Elite or '74 1117) the old axe just blows the Di Meola away. You should hear Jeff Burns' plugged in sound. Granted, he's a monster player but I'm talking tone: that Elite is HUGE!!! But the 1769 puts up obstacles in the way. We'll be sure to join the OFC-ers soon for a jam. I'll be playing Adamas by then anyway so I'll let the ADII 1769 be what it is: the most beautiful (Abalone encrusted) instrument I own. But you're right: same bracing etc. What gives?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-19 3:33 PM (#74209 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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What Adamas are you getting?
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dobro
Posted 2007-11-19 7:51 PM (#74210 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice



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Stephen Terry's 1581-5 reissue (the one in his gallery), nearly new....
I'm very excited! I'll be sure to post photos and a tune when I get it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-19 8:50 PM (#74211 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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I've never played one, but everybody who has says that they are absolute cannons! Adamii are whole different animals than wood topped O's. Let us know what you think of it. I think my OFC slothead and Adamas I 12 string are the best guitars I own (sound and playability-wise), but would never sell my wood topped O's. They are great in their own ways....
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-19 11:39 PM (#74212 - in reply to #74138)
Subject: Re: Adamas Avice


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Paul, Didn't you play mine last year when you were delivering it to Temp? Dave
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