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Location: Japan | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Just my personal opinion (again shopping with money I do not have), but for $10,000. I would rather in vest in an original slothead. OR, I would custom order this exact same brown guitar to the same specs PLUS a matching 12-string. How cool would THAT be ???
Dave Sounds really cool to me because one of the things I really wished for was a more 'organic' looking Adamas.
This may be a dangerous thing to admit here, but I picked sparkles off of the Adamas II I gave my ex. :p
Anyway, while I'm here in Japan I'll keep looking for interesting guitars and try to get pics of anything Adamas that comes my way! |
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Location: CT | Originally posted by samova:
it sounded very average for an adamas. I think the spray or stain finish(whatever it was) killed the sound of that guitar. I'm still new to Adamii, so I gotta ask even though I'm sure its in the archives somewhere...
What's the Top Frequency refer to?? Is a higher number better? Brighter? The tribute description says this guitar is a 96 (I assume thats after the brown paint was applied). Is it on a scale of 100 (I seem to remember seeing some over the 100 mark)? My 1687 is a 86 or 87, I dont remember which, but sounds very nice, and also bright... Whats the lowest / highest Adamas I numbers and how different would the 2 guitars sound?
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Location: Connecticut | I sold that guitar to Samova back around '99 or so if it is #79. He and his friend bought a bunch of guitars from me and I put a 2nd floor on my house.I think Bill is correct about it being a Nick Mackin experiment from the old Moosup days. I never liked the color myself and if I remember correctly there seemed to be a rattle in the top if you tapped on it.I'm still working in New Hartford and I also put in over 10 years in Moosup.I'm hoping that we'll stay here for many years to come. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Akami,
Sorry about sounding like a butt-head. Putting the whole $10,000 issue to the side, that is a very nice and original-looking instrument. I wonder if that simulated wood grain attempt came up before the idea of the 1537 wood top? Anyway, the only Adamas color that I never cared for was the Olive-drab (babycrap green) model. I know some of you love that one, but once again ... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Oh yeah ... how much are they asking for the teal one? and what model is it? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Vince, Have you ever seen the babycrap-green one with your own eyes? Trust me, I said the same thing as you - until I saw one in person. I know it is subjective, but I was SHOCKED how wrong my opinions could be based on photos. Dave |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by brainslag:
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What's the Top Frequency refer to?? Is a higher number better? Brighter? The tribute description says this guitar is a 96 (I assume thats after the brown paint was applied). Is it on a scale of 100 (I seem to remember seeing some over the 100 mark)? My 1687 is a 86 or 87, I dont remember which, but sounds very nice, and also bright... Whats the lowest / highest Adamas I numbers and how different would the 2 guitars sound?
I await my beating.. It's not the top frequency, it actually refers to the helmholtz frequency of the guitar, which is the fundamental frequency of the air cavity. Most Adamas seem to fall into the 83HZ to 96Hz range with the majority of 47RI's and OFC's being 93Hz. To put that into some kind of perspective the open 6th string has a frequency of 82Hz and G at fret 3 is 98HZ. I don't think variations of less than 15 to 20 cents in the fundamental freq can impact at all on the perceivable sound when comparing Adamas guitars. Any difference between them could be attributed to any combination of numerous other factors. |
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| Thanks for the frequency explanation, Paul. I think that's the first time I've heard it explained in laymen's terms. In those terms, then there's got to be an ideal string to maximize the movement of sound from the top into the air cavity. Pure acoustic advantage. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Click for Poo-Burst
I think, the pictures are just fine. But they still do no justice to the beautiness of this guitar in person.
Not to many of them out there, and I am more than glad to own it.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Dave,good to hear from you again..I do remember the top had a rattle to it and it would make weird popping noises if you touched the top..Also the floating fingerboard started lifting up toward the strings..Never did like that guitar.It sounded like dog poo...The others however were very nice.Marty from california got most of the guitars and still has them i believe and i got three in the deal.. |
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Location: NJ | could there have been 2 brown ones? I KNOW I had and sold one!!! |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Not to hijack the thread, but at what point did the protypes turn into playable models? If Marcel Dadi got #19, they must have been pretty playable by that point.
So, has anyone have any knowlege of the instruments from #20 through #26? |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I had number 7 and 12 for a while and they were playable.Not completed guitars but playable.I believe many of the proto's did nor survive and got band sawed.Bill might remember what happened to them. |
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Location: NJ | Sam, didn't you have that one that had the "access door" cut out with a utility knife and duct-taped-in for access to the braces for trimming??
That one's in France now, isn't it?? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | This one? |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Cliff,I had two like that.The 6 string now in france
and a 12 string |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Yes, I know about those two but I was thinking about the later prototypes just before the slotheads.
I also remember now seeing the #19 that Marcel had...can't remember if it had a slotted headstock though. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Wayne,if i remember the story #20-26 were not completed guitars and did not exist except for test models..I believe it was the trasformation from proto's with different soundhole configurations to what the adamas became at serial number 27..I think that is the story as i heard it a few years back. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Sam's right. That was discussed here some time ago. Some were not whole guitars, some were band sawed, a couple got experimental 2-knob electronics. It didn't come together into a "product" until number 27. Dave |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Dave,glad you remember the story as well.Sometimes i wonder where these stories come from in my head.They are burried down deep somewhere and only surface when a topic here triggers them to surface.Like the Charles Manson and Ovation story.Sometimes i wonder if i pull these stories from my head or out of my ass? :D :D |
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Location: France | Originally posted by Tupperware:
The color looks the same as the slothead that Tom_CA just got.
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Location: GA USA | Sounds like a few of you guys need to put your heads together and write out the official history of the original slotheads/prototypes/... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | ... someone should write a book. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Cool piece of the historic puzzle.
Overpriced? It depends, not to the right buyer perhaps. And I guess this would be the first time I've seen a music store asking waaaay too much for an instrument. :rolleyes:
Especially something "vintage". |
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Location: Munich, Germany | But who could that be? |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Dave,
You are probably right about the green colored guitar. I still haven't seen a picture yet that gets me very exited about one though. I know that photos very seldom do justice when it comes to color reproduction, and many times I have received guitars that end up looking twice as good as the pictures. |
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Very rare Adamas found in Japan!
