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Tony PD
Posted 2007-11-29 9:50 PM (#72485)
Subject: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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I know there are exceptions, but it seems like traditionally most acoustic guitars are non-cutaway and most acoustic-electrics are cutaway. Is there any logic or reasoning behind this?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-11-29 9:59 PM (#72486 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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Mmmmm? The type of person that likes to play amplified also likes to play further up the neck?
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dobro
Posted 2007-11-29 10:34 PM (#72487 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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First of all, genre rules: so Gypsy jazz dicatates needing a cutaway, hence Django had cutuaway before anyone had heard of Hitler. In terms of mass-marketing or the pop scene, it seems that "cutaway" was first widespread or iconic for "new" solid body guitars like the first Strat: you just cut the plank with no worries about the complexities of a "box". As a kid (early 60's)I loved guitars and payed attention, but never saw much in the way of "cutaway" acoustics. Somewhere down the line (maybe with semi-hollows? or Gibson jazz boxes?) the idea catches on: why not provide acoustic players with the same advantage? When I was dreaming about owning my first Ovation in the very early 70's I did not realize that the cutaway option was in the works!
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Beal
Posted 2007-11-29 11:46 PM (#72488 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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The first one was made in Moosup in 1975. It was a Matrix or Medallion, I forget which.
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an4340
Posted 2007-11-30 9:15 AM (#72489 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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I always reckoned that it was because people who came to the cutaway were coming from a jazz or rock background and had either needed or got used to playing in the cutaway region.
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bvince
Posted 2007-11-30 9:25 AM (#72490 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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Also for those of us who have little fingers that still want to play in the higher octaves,
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Yak
Posted 2007-11-30 9:27 AM (#72491 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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Im assuming the only disadvantage of a cutaway is a slight loss in sound?

But the advantages of being able to play anything on the fretboard seems like a huge advantage to me. Id be surprised that anyone would prefer a non-cutaway all other things being equal.

For some is it a looks or traditional thing?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-11-30 9:42 AM (#72492 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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Originally posted by Yak:
For some is it a looks or traditional thing?
YUP. Call me an old fart. I WISH that I could play in such a way that I needed a cutaway !!!

Dave
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an4340
Posted 2007-11-30 10:37 AM (#72493 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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If you play a little beach boys, a little chuck berry, a little latin, you gotta get up in there and the cutaway helps.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-11-30 10:40 AM (#72494 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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Some of it's marketing a different look.
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PEZ
Posted 2007-12-01 1:41 AM (#72495 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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I think deep non cut is the fullest sounding
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-12-01 11:19 AM (#72496 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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Originally posted by Yak:
Im assuming the only disadvantage of a cutaway is a slight loss in sound?

all other things being equal.

The amount of air-space lost with a cutaway design is neglible, and the top is so stiff in that area that it contributes very little to the overall tone. I'd defy anyone to tell the difference between a cutaway and non-cut guitar by sound alone.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-01 1:24 PM (#72497 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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I'm with Temp. I couldn't tell any difference in sound between them, now I've wound up with all (except for my 1624) Elite-style cutaways.
And I'm very happy with them.
And I no longer have bruises on the heel of my left hand from slamming it against the treble bout going for the 15th fret...
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Tony PD
Posted 2007-12-01 1:36 PM (#72498 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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Darn, I was almost sold on the "cutaway = slight loss of sound" concept until Paul and Wabbit chimed in. I would think there must be some kind of trade-off between the two. Otherwise why would anyone still offer non-cutaway acoustics if cutaway has better fret access and sound just as good?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-12-01 1:50 PM (#72499 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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And I no longer have bruises on the heel of my left hand from slamming it against the treble bout going for the 15th fret...


What 15th fret??? There's a 15th fret?
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-01 2:19 PM (#72500 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway



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There's your answer, Tony.
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Akami
Posted 2007-12-02 1:52 PM (#72501 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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Originally posted by Tony PD:
Darn, I was almost sold on the "cutaway = slight loss of sound" concept until Paul and Wabbit chimed in. I would think there must be some kind of trade-off between the two. Otherwise why would anyone still offer non-cutaway acoustics if cutaway has better fret access and sound just as good?
I was reading with curiosity and wondering which way it was going to go since I've never tried A/B'ing them.

Regardless, I've always liked the look better with the cutaway, and love the feeling of complete freedom to do whatever I want without having to contend with the body being in the way.
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Andrea
Posted 2007-12-02 2:21 PM (#72502 - in reply to #72485)
Subject: Re: Acoustic/Non-Cutaway vs. Acoustic-Electric/Cutaway


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I think you get a better view up there
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