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Gway
Posted 2007-12-01 7:20 PM (#72278)
Subject: Is it me, or..


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do some Christmas songs have some really strange chords, like Ab7b5(add PI>5th) :eek:
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45flint
Posted 2007-12-01 9:51 PM (#72279 - in reply to #72278)
Subject: Re: Is it me, or..


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Christmas songs never work for guitar that well no matter what chords they have down.
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Gway
Posted 2007-12-01 10:01 PM (#72280 - in reply to #72278)
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Thanks 45, now I have an excuse!
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-12-02 7:14 AM (#72281 - in reply to #72278)
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Many of the Christmas songs with classical arrangements have some chords foreign to many guitarists. I've dealt with some of that by rearranging the music to a more guitar-friendly key and chords, but that's tougher when playing with a keyboardist who is playing all the notes on the staff. You're better off with a book of Christmas songs arranged for guitar, but even then you'll run into some chords like that. I reckon this isn't news for most of us.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-02 7:46 AM (#72282 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Gway:
Thanks 45, now I have an excuse!
I could think of a couple more.... :D
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LBJ
Posted 2007-12-02 7:52 AM (#72283 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Gway:
do some Christmas songs have some really strange chords, like Ab7b5(add PI>5th) :eek:
yeah, but when you look at the chart some chords with long names have only one or two strings pressed on some strange positions.
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-02 8:09 AM (#72284 - in reply to #72278)
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I play jingle bells in F as a real slow blues. works OK and at some point it's recognizable as JB.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-02 8:35 AM (#72285 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Paul Blanchard:
Many of the Christmas songs with classical arrangements have some chords foreign to many guitarists. I've dealt with some of that by rearranging the music to a more guitar-friendly key and chords, but that's tougher when playing with a keyboardist who is playing all the notes on the staff.
I've dealt with it by telling the keyboardist to go get some hot chocolate and cookies...
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LBJ
Posted 2007-12-02 9:39 AM (#72286 - in reply to #72278)
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you can always play on electric.
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Gway
Posted 2007-12-02 10:33 AM (#72287 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by Gway:
Thanks 45, now I have an excuse!
I could think of a couple more.... :D
Why TJ, whatever do you mean? :confused:
(Jim pm me with some of yours...OK) :D
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Andrea
Posted 2007-12-02 2:16 PM (#72288 - in reply to #72278)
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I think its natures way of telling us not to play em
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-12-02 2:33 PM (#72289 - in reply to #72278)
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So it's true? The guitar IS the devil's instrument?


EX-ssellent!
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2007-12-02 3:39 PM (#72290 - in reply to #72278)
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We had a wonderful classical guitarist play for the annual holiday party one year--I watched his hands every time he got close to our table; he could play anything, weird chords and all--and then I noticed the capo.
So...why not put the things in guitar-reasonable keys and then capo them so you match the piano? Or, there's the transpose button that some of the newer keyboards have; that's the best of both worlds. You play where you want, the keyboard does all the work and the player reads notes as written.
(I usually transpose them, and my wonderful pianist uses lead sheets and fakes the rest....)

--Karen
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-12-02 4:11 PM (#72291 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Jewel's Mom:
We had a wonderful classical guitarist play for the annual holiday party one year--I watched his hands every time he got close to our table; he could play anything, weird chords and all--and then I noticed the capo.
So...why not put the things in guitar-reasonable keys and then capo them so you match the piano? Or, there's the transpose button that some of the newer keyboards have; that's the best of both worlds. You play where you want, the keyboard does all the work and the player reads notes as written.
(I usually transpose them, and my wonderful pianist uses lead sheets and fakes the rest....)

--Karen
Good Idea... A Capo makes all them nasty F's & B's tolerable!
For me at least :rolleyes:
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Gway
Posted 2007-12-02 4:45 PM (#72292 - in reply to #72278)
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Good Idea... A Capo makes all them nasty F's & B's tolerable!
For me at least :rolleyes:


BUT..,BUT that's cheat'n,,,ain't it? Oh what the hell, Andrea,do you like that slide capo you bought? :D
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-12-02 8:11 PM (#72293 - in reply to #72278)
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We played "Christmastime" today and there wasn't a straight chord in the entire piece. It would have worked very well for our jazz concert last September.
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Andrea
Posted 2007-12-03 2:39 AM (#72294 - in reply to #72278)
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Yeah Gary, Slide capo is good and makes it much harder to loose , was a good purchase
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brainslag
Posted 2007-12-03 6:48 AM (#72295 - in reply to #72278)
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It's the same with traditional hymns. There was always an organ in a church, and piano was a common instrument, guitar was not. Songwriters were piano players and they played whatever sounded good a flatted 5th in a chord was not a big deal.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-12-03 7:54 AM (#72296 - in reply to #72278)
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Just have about 5 guitars available tuned to A flat, E flat, etc...and remember to pick the right one up.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-12-03 8:26 AM (#72297 - in reply to #72278)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Just have about 5 guitars available tuned to A flat, E flat, etc...and remember to pick the right one up.
Capo's are the cheaper way to go. :)
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